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STROLLING THROUGH THE MEMETIC MINE FIELD ::

MEME: (pron. `meem') A contagious information pattern that replicates by parasitically infecting human minds and altering their behavior, causing them to propagate the pattern. (Term coined by Dawkins, by analogy with "gene".) Individual slogans, catch-phrases, melodies, icons, inventions, and fashions are typical memes. An idea or information pattern is not a meme until it causes someone to replicate it, to repeat it to someone else. All transmitted knowledge is memetic. (Wheelis, quoted in Hofstadter.).

STROLLING THROUGH THE MEMETIC MINE FIELD :: "...Isn't it strange that in the past people were so peculiar in their tastes, their prejudices, their sexual attitudes, their treatment of animals, and their family relationships? Even now, people in some parts of the world have some really strange ideas about how to feel and behave. Were our ancestors stupid?!? What about the great scientists and philosophers of the past, who seemed very intelligent, yet showed little understanding for the problems of women and minorities? Many of the great leaders and statesmen of the past even had slaves. [In here most brahmin form the core of the Left, and they keep servants at home] Are we just smarter now -- or what?"!!!

No, those strange folks in other times and other lands were making decisions in the same way you do now -- decisions based on the memes and genes that inhabit their minds."gr8 Artist & Poetess Rooma Mehra

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Rooma Mehra Awarded Artist of The Month

11:57 PM 04/28/2005 :: gr8 Artist & equally gr8 Poetess Rooma Mehra digitalconsciousness.com Artist of The Month. Kudos!

Indian Opposition Disgrace Personification Itself!!

Ur everythiing is 'ashobhniya' Sanghii Putti... from soorat 2 seerat 2 aawaaz 2 kHayaal... married to a socialist... [ku-darshan wrong in calling her non-sanghii, her genetic father is also her memetic one] opposite and in contrast to their regressive Hindutwa ideal role 4 women... and She pretend to create an Ideal Indian women Sati Savitrii image... big Sindoor dhaarii pativarata bhartiya naarii... and all matresses and shoes for their MALE counterpart. What a mess of both parliaments u lampats make... kaan ke parde paaRh diye hamre... kaisan kaise gHunde ghus paRe uththe re!!! on all side except the left..

Dekho DuniyawaaloN opposition in India still hasn't conceded defeat... it is trying to destabilize the guv with loads of false pretences 4 not letting the Union guv function... even strategy in Gujarat was simple... upon instruction from aadvaaNii, Moadi genocidal maniac planted Bajrangiia in there disguised as "volunteers" and them instigated the local crowd... and them deciding to boycott 4 three days!! why 3 days... pl don't bother try to stay away longer... but please don't perish vanish... ;)... coz how else children gonna come to know what shape and size and type and kind evil is... u r the specimen of badness... dah!

Opposition Not Conceding Defeat. @ Destabilize Game

Even that chicken Vinayak Damodar Saavarkar did anti-national act of starting this two nation theory of calling Hindus and Muslims 2 different nations under the pretext of a noble cause of freedom from "foreign rule"... see how clever them lampaTs r at their fascism and its propaganda techniques... by the them big time admirer of fascists of Italy and the Germany. Hey EU And NA & Latinaland Africa how come u allow these Nazi admirer Naazii thugs to do politics... [a movie on Subhaash [Subash] [asking blood like him hardly makes him a Su_bhaash. Bose allied with then Gabbar Singhs/ Osama/ Orwell’s Emmanuel Goldstein... Global “Axis of Evil” then… so no big glorification can be done... recent China Nippon war time atrocities still touchy emotive thing in the public psyche...]

03:06 PM 04/26/2005 :: ...ah ABV as SwaNyam Sevak yet again.. that he is been one all his life. memeber of a fascist autocratic organization which claims 2 be a cultural and social organization but it is political left right and center... then he asked the union minister 2 take back his charges against these fascist set-ups... saying otherwise how cud be honor of the house restored... ha! as long as a single lampat like urself in there, that doesn't seem possible. Beside not just Modi responsible 4 crimes against humanity buy u and Aadvaanii and ur whole party responsible and will eventually be booked 4 ur crimes.

07:15 PM 04/22/2005 :: Indeed it cud be a sabotage... not 2 destabilize Gujarat guv but bajrangiis doin' it 2 force stall the parliament yet again... How cud this Modi guy remain in power is a sheer dheethpana & besharmi... shamelessness of a menial lumpen party... the longer he stays there, more damage he does... a state behaving in such a manner is unprecedented... Gujaraat guv shud be saked ASAP... and not just that the hindutwa laboratory shud be razed 2 the ground... phan kuchal do inka Sonia Devi, it will be gr8 service 2 this nation... Uma B talking of Sonia G. and kudarshan talking about Popa... well 'yeh muNh aur masoor kii daal...

Hawks, deluded hoi polloi & Kaashmiir

big debate is on Indo-Paak relation & resolution of kashmir @ NDTVIndy [heated up uncivilized behavior amidst so called 'learned' people... and that 2 Muchkund dubey of all... and amply demonstrated that they all are closed minded ideologues, just forcing down their [read their guv/state] views down others throat... but no one actually listening 2 each other. Raaja Mohan, Manoj Sharma, G Parthsaarthy & Chelaani K Subramaniam r patriotic nuts... not reckoning & addressing the problem itself, but 2 push their guv's line. Wonder how these 'pagan heathen' 'opinionated without any comprehension of real situation', perhaps on the payroll/paid_role of MEA of Indian Guv... looks like 3rd party mediation is enevitable... plebiscite is inevitable 2... in such a situation that is what the best possible solution is... and specially in a Democracy.

both NDTV debate utterly useless rather counter productive, in other words bad Indian PR [wonder how sardesaii & Dibaang expert @ everything... ganging up and gaging the paki journo. Indian successive guvs have been just buying time instead of resolving it and them sure more responsible 4 all the deaths in Kaashmiir... 120k people dead, 2 iz2 one... thousands just simply disappeared. Tens of thousands of rape, in which all militaries of the world specialize in... PaaTil, Kamalnaath, NaTwar & ManiShankar & MMS not really guverning material. Not just flag gaffe... Prez Mush said "ikHtelafaat pehle se behtar ho" [differences gets better] while he meant "ta'aluqqaat pehle se behtar ho" [relation gets better] and why everybody keep calling this land as hindustan hindustaan... official name is Bharat... Plllleeeaase!! and btw both these stupid deluded nations shud not be allowed 2 call themselves "Nuke Power"... some 1967 dealine blocks any Nuke power tally...

What a chhichhaledaarii-e-lampaTs... 'Pram poojya' sarsangh chaalak reduced 2 mockery of everyone... what self destructive memeoids. [Pranab & Arjun both senior INC must be heart broken deep inside 4 Sonia not choosing them 4 the job. But what a masterstroke, winning Sikhs back 2 the fold... but it has already lost a lot of muslim votes & dalit a whole load more... and yet INC not learning from its mistakes... INC shud have celebrated big way both recent birth days of BJJR & DrBSBRA... 6th & 14th April respectivly. Do massive planned push 4 Minority & rural higher education education, micro credit 4 loads of Cottage Industries all through the land.

Poor Media coverage of Dharaji

04:56 PM 04/11/2005 :: Dekho duniyawaaloN... in this age of info, the man made disaster @ Narmada Bank, Dharaji village Dewas, Ujjain in the Central province MP... they let the water loose outta dame near Khandwa... and hundreds 'pilgrims' taking a holy bath/dip there just washed away... and Indian media wakes up 4 day 2 fookin' late... b'coz of global media resources quake coverage 2 quick... but this was even 3 days 2 unfookin late 4 print media 2 make it 2 the front page... it happened Thursday night... no one fired or booked 4 accountability sake... & ghaaghwaanii memeoid keep parrotin of good guvernance... how cud gobarfilled brains give good guvernance?!? a few head rolls some good 10 days after... ha!

Congrats KaraaTs... there's big confusion about how ur last name actually rhyme... NDTV must be right spelling it Karaat... while thr rest of media calling Kaarat... [excellent telly Tibetan student discussion is on, drawing some 'ahimsak' attention upon Chinese Premier visit 2 Delhi... next dalai laama B-day... all those who love him send a flower each 2 any body who matters in Communist autocracy... Gaandhii Mandela Arafaat and Daaii laama fights so long b4 getting anywhere and Future prime minister Begin did bomb British HQ in then Palestine and 2 years flat got Israel as state... bahut na insaafii heggii.]

Tear down the Wall...

10:55 PM 04/07/2005 :: The bus linking the divided Kashmir... IndiaTV's coverage was best... Miira, Jaaved Akhtar & Mahesh BhaT touchy moving narrations... thank u Sudhir Chowdhary... no one said it was like Berlin wall coming down... Caravan-e-Peace. What a relief... sign & proof that Bajrangii raaj is over. hey what about Gujarat... no real judicial progress on... INC lead centre allowing them 2 go scot free... the subjudiced cases r just symbolic selective cases... including the closed now re-open 2k cases... there were thousand more crime by the Hindutwa instigated mob... V cannot afford 2 be lenient on that... just 2 ensure that it doesn't repeat... how Modi cud survive all that is a shame... n sham of a biggest democracy farcical claim... VHP cadre & leaders shud be held accountable...

[12:56 AM 02/03/2004] about Gujarat book all those authorities complicit... held accountable. if u pardon and let go go this, it doesn't stop there, law should take its course. The present CM should be checked by psychiatrists! hell this guy doesn't qualify 2 rule, he gotta go & tried 4 his CAH, justice business is really fookin on... then!!!

[08:23 PM 03/18/2004 :: 6th April & 14th April, B-Days of BJJR & DrBSBRA should be celebrated in a big way by the INC cadres all over the country. 14th April any movie 2b shown on any channel?!? INC is not focusing on education... shud invoke MAK Aazaad etc., modernization & scientific & rational updation, up gradation of education. INC shud also admit that it failed 2 focus on primary education, a separate set of blue-prints 4 primary education, that 2 on a state level as well...]

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07:18 AM 04/06/2005 :: Clean chit 2 Georgy paggal, the farcical socialist 'kafanchor'... nah defense is another holy cow... V all know its 6-7% commission in all defense deals... but as in the 'palace intrigues' will never come out in open as proof or evidence... source 4 major contribution 2 political parties!?! Ah here is the famous Marijuana smokers list

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10:15 PM 04/02/2005 :: 'Hum se dostii karoge'/StarGold... sure, minus ur ammas... but over ambitious almost bimbos, mommy directed, guarded... but all their jawaani is of 4 days kii chaandnii... then them lookin like their mommas... these 4 babes r HOT and turn me on crazy, ...and want all 4 of them together without any completion or envy... [and there is one rotating paTraanii] non-orgasmic play on me part while multiple ones 4 them. Mostly they r happy with themselves ;)... than there r toys and Arjun Raampaal & Milind Soman kinda toy-boys as their pujaariis...

This Munna bhai real stupid... wonder why the stupid movie awarded, coz it sounds criminal 2 me, 2 encourage such unaesthetic language... any more munna bhai in similar faculties and the utter decline is complete... 2 some extent taporii lingo is ok 4 fun & variety's sake but it can't be mainstream... Abhijit not telegenic, the guy is not just a turn off, he looks stupid 2, and ugly from inside... most of these chhichhore bhaaNDs try 2 converse in English, them so poor @ that but deluded 2 pretend well read n articulate...

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Kalyaan formula in Jhaarkhand

Far right first did a jumbo cabinet of almost a hundred minister in UP then went on and passed a law restricting it to 15% of house strength... 4 charade they r, and Jharkhand province 5 short of majority and again all 5 supporting independent made ministers yet everybody in the media BUSINESS blaming INC of hanky panky, while it is bajrangiis at fault... Vatican @ big drama outta Popa's eminent demise...

Jyoti Basu is 2 late 2 warn on proliferation, blowing starving's moolah... u have been complicit in all this big spending over the years... and not just @ this raawla khaata but like center & right wing politician shielding one another... going scot free on their crimes against humanity... Left 2 is responsible 4 not raising the issue... so they r complicit in all this ugly hanky panky of most debased type of pimp as well... Why Aadvaanii and BJP NOT held responsible/accountable 4 riots in Gujarat... [judiciary helpless, but I guess them dependent on politacians] demolition of a mosque... 3k murders...yucky puky tribal raaj is on... kamzarf jaahil everywhere... politics 2 media 2 performing arts 2 cinema...

Dubya intelligence lies & Only 12% political space 4 women

02:17 AM 04/01/2005 :: Another blow 2 Dubya... 4 fabrication, sexing up intelligence as false pretence 4 war... messing up America's credibility [?] 4 long time 2 come... Zoe Busiek mentioned 14% political space 4 women in US poly_ticks... :) a pretty detective suggesting [demonstrating in the process, political awareness among other professions of other worlds] a subject worth discussing, when offered radio jockey seat. Why can't Bollywood bimbos/scriptwriters be this smart... glad that bhaaNDs in their real life associating with good ngo causes... but on screen characters seldom engage in any such activity...

Many discussions on newly acquired right by womenfolk... kudos, their right 2 do nightshifts in factories... many women politicians talking about reservation 4 women in politics, on most idiotbox media, but no one talking about PR or full representation system of voting... if women r pragmatic enuff they soon start 2 debate about this latest, modern advanced voting system, which has been adapted by most modern democracies... it will gain strength from all minorities... coz it just doesn't provide adequate political representation to women alone but minorities as well... this just political demand, that 2 inevitably... by 2 formidable political groups of women & consolidated minorities will realize it like piece of cake... this Brahmin empire will crumble with proportional representation. taking cue from tathagata a student group of a US Univ., is 2 send tons of emails... good!! tathagat is pretty sure PR will be adopted eventually... indeed it is inevitable... its just matter of time. Coz...

The trend in the world is toward proportional representation and away from "winner take all." Recently the United Kingdom, the grandmother of all "winner take all" democracies, chose to use PR to elect representatives to the European Parliament. In their first elections, Scotland and Wales chose proportional systems.

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04:38 AM 03/30/2005 :: Counter Punch Cockburn in Delhi @ X-Factor/NDTV... global dumbing down media is the subject... but isn't that the first lesson in journalism is 2 trivialize everything in order 2 make it comprehensible 4 the hoi polloi... roTiiraam baaTiiraams @ arms proliferation... 83k crores 4 defense in this year's budget, up from 77K. prior 2 that 65K. Paakiis shud have turned down this much much delayed, reluctant supply of effing eff16s... in gesture 'roll it and stick it'... if Blair is Dubya poodle, wonder what it wud make of the General Musharraf...

Baaru: Rising or Receding Shoreline!?!

01:13 AM 03/29/2005 :: Another earthquake... 8.2 to 8.5, and now 8.7 final figure by USGS... around same region Sumatra... about 3 hours from now... media 2 guvs acting little different than last time round... PMO media advisor kept talking [5-6 times @ that, as talking of some flood in a river ha!] 'not rising sea level'... :) somebody tell this jaahil that Tsunami indication following these massive quakes is NOT the rising sea levels but receding shoreline and not vice versa... kaise kaisan kamzarf jaahil occupying cream position and many times more talented people no where!?! how cud them inform, while not informed themselves!?! [ah a beeb reporter Andrew Harding just mentioned the NO receding shoreline twice, he is one informed educated reporter/scribe unlike the NDTV anchor Natasha Jog talking 2 PMO media guy. wonder if them take tathagat serious... checking the fema link from jan-Feb 05 issue.]

Sufi tasawwuf music goin' pop ::

11:43 PM 03/27/2005 :: Sufi... tasawwuf... they tried 2 talk on the Humloag NDTV hindvii, singing it 2... no one cud explain the Sufi phenomenon... but wonder if it all cud be said in words... words r picture while music or naad or sound definitely not picture... Sufi music not just coming mainstream but b'coming pop is a real sign of real beginning of a new millennia... as 2 what is Sufism, women & Sufism what is Sufism wonder if it's still on?!? :: [Camille Adams Helminski of the Mevlevi Sufi Order, briefly discusses some well-known women Sufis and central issues concerning women in the history of Sufism.]

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Proportional Representation System of Voting

Fractured mandate in so many past elections suggest that winner take all system of voting a failure... Proportional or Full Representation System of Voting is the answer... check me thread on the index page. 8th March women's day check Social and Political Oppression of Women thread 2...

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[hey i am buskin the truth fellas, 4 a long long time... spare sovereign if not the penny]

As Mulla Nasruddin emerged form the mosque after prayers, a beggar sitting on the street solicited alms. The following conversation followed: Are you extravagant? asked Nasruddin. Yes Nasruddin. replied the beggar. Do you like sitting around drinking coffee and smoking? asked Nasruddin. Yes. replied the beggar. I suppose you like to go to the baths everyday? asked Nasruddin. Yes. replied the beggar. ...And maybe amuse yourself, even, by drinking with friends? asked Nasruddin. Yes I like all those things. replied the beggar. Tut, Tut, said Nasruddin, and gave him a gold piece. A few yards farther on. another beggar who had overheard the conversation begged for alms also. Are you extravagant? asked Nasruddin. No, Nasruddin replied second beggar. Do you like sitting around drinking coffee and smoking? asked Nasruddin. No. replied second beggar. I suppose you like to go to the baths everyday? asked Nasruddin. No. replied second beggar. ...And maybe amuse yourself, even, by drinking with friends? asked Nasruddin. No, I want to only live meagerly and to pray. replied second beggar. Whereupon the Nasruddin gave him a small copper coin. But why, wailed second beggar, do you give me, an economical and pious man, a penny, when you give that extravagant fellow a sovereign? Ah my friend, replied Nasruddin, his needs are greater than yours.

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:: Time 2 invoke Diogenes Laertius 2 ::

t love this fellow Diogenes for the simple reason that he does not claim any authority from God. He does not give any orders and commandments and disciplines to others. He used to live naked -- not for any religious reasons, not to get to heaven; he was not concerned about heaven and hell at all. He lived naked, because, he said, "That's how I was born. Nature wants me to be this way. Why should I be otherwise? I am going to be just natural."

One day it happened, he was just going to the river. He used to carry, up to that time, a begging bowl which he used to collect food or keep water. He was running towards the river -- he was thirsty -- and just by his side a dog came running and reached the river before him and started drinking water. Diogenes said, "Great. This dog is far more independent than me." He threw the begging bowl into the river and said to the dog, "Master, you have really shown me the way. I was carrying that weight unnecessarily."

He was caught by a few thieves -- because in those days people were caught and sold as slaves, and he looked very promising. He was very healthy and had a certain personality. They were certain that they would get good money if they could keep hold of him. They were three; he was alone, but they were not certain that even three would be able to keep hold of him. He might kill all three. So they followed him, afraid whether to try or just drop the idea because he seemed to be dangerous. And who knows, he might be mad, because he was walking naked and enjoying so much, and he had nothing to enjoy.

Diogenes was listening to what they were thinking and talking about, and he said, "Don't be worried. You want to steal me? You want to sell me in the marketplace?"

They were shocked. They said, "Now there is trouble. If we say yes, he is going to jump on us."

But Diogenes said, "Don't be afraid. I am going myself to the market. You can come with me, you can sell me. One thing I know: nobody can make me a slave. So you will get money, and you will be happy. And I know for certain that nobody can make me a slave, so why should I be worried about it? You just come along with me."

They could not even say, "We don't want to come along," because this man seemed to be so strange: he might force them to come along with him. So they said, "Okay, if you say so, then we will come along." He was walking ahead and they were behind him; he was looking like an emperor and they were looking like the slaves.

When they reached the slave market he stood up on the platform where slaves used to be put so people could see from all sides, to measure them, weigh them, look at their teeth -- just the way you purchase a horse or a bull, that's how -- they could see your muscles, whether you were strong or weak, old or young. But these three thieves could not say to Diogenes, "Please stand on the platform." He jumped up himself, and what he said from the platform is something to be remembered. He said, "Listen!" -- so loudly that the whole market became silent, seeing a naked man and so healthy, so beautiful, so proportionate. They had never seen such a slave.

There was great silence in the whole market, all the people gathered there, and Diogenes said, "For the first time a master is for sale. Any slave among you can purchase a master. But remember, you are purchasing a master." Those three thieves were hiding in the crowd because they thought the crowd might become angry, and they might be caught: "You have brought this man here."

But one rich man fell in love... just the idea. This man was saying, "A master is for sale; any slave can purchase him." This rich man asked, "Who owns you?"

Diogenes said, "Of course I own myself, but I have promised three thieves, so the money will go to them. They are hiding there. They have followed me. Really I have forced them to come here -- they were trying to escape in the middle of the journey, and just now they are trying to disappear in the crowd. They are the three. You will have to give the money to these people. And I will come with you. As far as ownership is concerned, I own myself and nobody can own me."

The rich man said, "That's what has appealed to me. I am not taking you as a slave, I am accepting you as a master. You just come with me. Just your being in my house, your presence, is enough." The thieves were paid. Diogenes went in the chariot of the rich man, and the rich man certainly behaved as if he was the slave and Diogenes was the master.

There is a certain phenomenon: if you are really independent psychologically, nobody can make you a slave. Yes, you can be killed, but you cannot be made a slave.

And all these people who have been giving commandments, disciplines, showing you the way to live, what to eat, what to wear, what to do, what not to do -- all these people are in some way trying to make you a psychological slave. t cannot call these people religious. To this tathagata 2 religion begins with psychological freedom.

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09:30 PM 12/11/2004 :: 'PaarZor' cannot be allowed 2 be disappear from the face of the earth Mr Verghese. ...last t suggested Paarsii Panchayat 2 include children born of paarsii women who marries non-Zoroastrians & the couple decides 2 raise them according 2 PaarZor... If that is not acceptable 2 them than Polygamy shud be allowed... but t is gonna ask loadz of Deutsche/Global lesbians wannabe moms 2 have Alternative insemination from Zoroastrian 'sperm donors'... t has been a donor of a kind... Only if the sperm seeking woman desire a girl child [hey South Asian lesbian babes let us make some cute babies] 4 me happens 2 be opposite of Dhritraashtra. baaba bholenaath without his Chitrangadas paarvatiis... what a fookin' shame on the times!

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08:53 PM 12/04/2004 :: TV anchors, TV & Cine actors r language illiterate... but Hollywood movies voiceovers as well... Harry Potters one did loadz of wrong talaffuz... proof that real deserving guys not getting there but bhaibhatiijawaad la sa_varna r employed there...


Keep u doped with religion & sex & TV/ & u think u'r so clever 'n' classless & free/ But u'r still unfucking rustic peasants as far as this seer can see...


KHushwant wrote on 'Spreading Islamophobia' in HT dated December 4th '04... and that Qor'anTV doing the contrary... he did mention of Dr Zaakir Naik wearing a skull cape & 'crop of beard' but conveniently forgot 2 mention him bigot wearing western attire... Paapajii pretends 2 be an atheist but adorn his Sikh identity... his crop of beard & turban... said in the end he cud 've done it better... but t has been doin' it 4 a while... me "Choa'paal Vigyaptii"...

Moslems accepts Moses & Jesus as prophets & them not just exclude Mohammed... but resist as they do the Marx... and btw one more point as #4] Evil apartheid existed very comfortably with & within Christianity in SA & USA...

t puncture of Islamophobia balloon with following 3 points 1). Islaam gave right 2 property 2 women 1400 yrs ago while Europe gave it 2 them just 120 years or so in 1881, 2). In Islaam even the greeting is as'salaam-o-aliakum va_rahmatullah-e-va_barkatahu [Peace, Mercy & Prosperity]. 3). Moslems accepts Moses & Jesus as prophets & them not just exclude Mohammed... but resist as they do the Marx... and btw one more point as #4] Evil apartheid existed very comfortably with Christianity in SA & USA...

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