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tathagata hosho

THE KEYS TO ALL THE ANCIENT ARTS ARE LOST, were lost many centuries ago. And therefore there is no longer a sacred art embodying laws of the Great Knowledge, and so serving to influence the instincts of the multitude.

There are no creators today. The contemporary priests of art do not create but imitate. They run after beauty and likeness or what is called originality, without possessing even the necessary knowledge. Not knowing, and not being able to do anything, since they are groping in the dark, they are praised by the crowd, which places them on a pedestal. Sacred art vanished and left behind only the halo which surrounded its servants. All the current words about the divine spark, talent, genius, creation, sacred art, have no solid basis—they are anachronisms. What are these talents? We will talk about them on some suitable occasion.

Either the shoemaker’s craft must be called art, or all contemporary art must be called craft. In what way is a shoemaker sewing fashionable custom shoes of beautiful design inferior to an artist who pursues the aim of imitation or originality? With knowledge, the sewing of shoes may be sacred art too, but without it, a priest of contemporary art is worse than a cobbler.

~ George Gurdjieff in VIEWS FROM THE REAL WORLD, pp. 35–36

tathagata hosho

:: August '04. GV|FS|UP ::

[Me right to free speech supersedes your right to exist mates!]

Theravada Text Archives in Zipped files
God, Science, and Delusion ::
A Chat With Arthur C. Clarke
Socrates Meets Jesus

American Atomic-Genocide of the People of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, August, 1945

Check Diamond Sutra Below...

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:: Jinnah v/s Savarkar ::

08:45 AM 08/31/2004 :: Siddarth Vardaraajan/DDN held Jinnah & Saavarkar equally responsible 4 the partition... most pagan heathen working here hand in glov & glowing be-sharmi. Saavarkar forced Jinnah 2 be a communalist... he wasn't one, he was a nationalist and Gokhle his political mentor, so VD Saavarkar is responsible 4 not just partition, but turning Jinnah into a bigot & a communalist. Ah 12 Nepalese shot dead by Iraqi rebels... wonder how the Hindu 'Aarya' "ummah" reacts... Why the right wingers keep talking about Bangladeshiis & not Nepaalis.

06:40 PM 08/30/2004 :: looks like Karnataka guv letting her off the hook yet again... fearing reprisal by the lumpen... being blackmail by the tutwa mob-leader, or 4 the sake of taming a strongly positioned opposition... so that guv gets breathing space. Bhajan/Azaan/Qawwaali on the commuting train is a shame & tortur, disturbance 4 other commuters... beside areligious, agnostics, atheist lots.

Ur law & order arrangements looks ugly stupid, inadaquet & ofcourse partisan. Reconciliation not possible with these lumpen. They will keep inventing [gobarchhaap] reasons 2 create obstacle in the way of this secular guv. Let them do what they want, let them break the law again and dispatch them in... behind bars. Don't just fear them successiding in their agitation... when ignored by media and their mob-crowd thinnig... their balloon burst...

06:05 AM 08/30/2004 :: Bajrangiis on the back foot... whole loadz of them @ the telly... defending their hooliganism inside the parliament... the best way people could respond by boycotting them instead... Devra putta, 27 yrs kal ka chhora tell us info about Saavarkar... INC/MHPCC/NCP will pay 4 their Saavarkar loov... everyone who even call VDS as viir is declaring him/herself a 'hindutwa' supporter, also anyone who calls this lands 'Hindustaan' the same! After the MH election both Moadii CM & VDS portrait removed... VthePeep is getting dull by the week but these electrik journo not well read, hence not good journo! [Ah Mulaayam pehalwaan puppet/NDtv tells them... "parhte toh ho nahiN tam loag'].

400k people on the streets in New York, opposing retarded buffoon Busha... Not just that he wud loose badly but real price his party will have 2 pay... future Senate & CONgress will be democratic clear majorities.

04:32 AM 08/29/2004 :: KPS Gill no good 4 Indian Hockey... him & the coach shud be shown the door... Hey SABtv/'Aao Jhoomein gaayieN' doin' a 90 min. twice, thrice a week in prime time wud give u gr8 TRPs... it's on right now... and what sweet classic melody these children do... it's seems like nasha, meditative state intervenes bewaring of cravings! recent floods of Remixes certainly re-vive old songs and so do Annu Kapoor & Gajendra/Shaan team, kudos fellas...

Why Beeb keep calling The caliph Ali mazaar as Imaam Ali shrine... and btw it's not most revered shrine 4 shi'ites alone, even 2 the sunnis across the globe, 2 them he is the 4th Khaliifa... beside 1st cousin 2 the prophet & also son-in-law. US discovers Zionists spying on them... US with its 10 million Jews, who also happens 2 be their owners. US vetoed hazaar times, shielding the terrorist unfucking villain Zionist state, will eventually pay dearly 4 all their misdeeds... not just by its enemy but this spying buddies of them.

Laalu getting personal in Jaipur... hinted @ strip searched chhadam socialist, communal fascist party [of most kuNwaraas] ally georgy paggal... that he is got a concubine/mistress... & public folks residents la glass hse. Wonder who responds 2 this!?!

Messing up Indian Democratic Institutions!!!

05:58 AM 08/27/2004 :: The menial-lumpen of the Indian polity sending a message that they just don't deserve 2 rule but even the principle opposition they don't deserve 2 be... Gurudaas Daashupta & Kapil were good on Late Edition/DDN... where daasgupta in the end said... old tathagat observation that Aadvaani 2 cause yet more damage 2 Indian democracy, than military did in Paakisstaan. Why the left quiet on VD Saavarkar... No u can't have Saavarkar anywhere... Vilasrav said INC guv will reconsider putting his quote back!!! lookin @ even the post independence all guv following Saavarkar anyway... rule of the majority... minorities @ their mercy... ha!

:: Plight of daily wagers during bandhs!!! ::

10:27 PM 08/26/2004 :: All forces out 2 disrupt the economy & law n order, should be dealt with firmly... Zappa sayeth "Politics is entertainment wing of the Industry", all those corporate hse backing them shud be dealt with. Let courts moved 4 this lumpen called bandh, millions of daily wage earner affected... so much moolah lost... do not chicken out INC, take them on headlong. SC shud be moved 2 ask ECs formulate a code of conduct 4 political parties... wonder if such code already there but not enforced or effective...[update :: SS' "joota maar rally"... cheapness demonstrated... fascist never believe in democratic disccourse or dialogue, after dhikkaar & hullabol its joota... the next wud be thookna rally & aankhphoR rally].

06:42 PM 08/26/2004 :: lampat toR phoR party SS & BJP... proving their mettle. ChhaTi paas chavvanni chhap kathawaachak of na shaql & soorat nor siirat, loudmouth badtammiiz... hatemonger and millions of worker without work 4 a day... over such a low life, ha! ABV & opposition making a fool of themselves, not reconciled 2 defeat/rejection in last GE. Low lives opposition can't come 2 term with loosing power. They never tasted power, never deserved... and want similar kinda importance out of power, which is not possible... good that lumpen deciding 2 go 2 jail in protest, where they rightfully belong [but jail they can't stand, hence never opposed occupying Brits, talking of nationalism ha! chickens, even during emergency... mercy mercy they cried, The paper tiger chickening].

:: Nazi admirers Communal fascist 2 much paNpo ::

U r 2 much panpo Mr ABV... u the be-sharam weed maligning & dirtying Indian polity, need 2 be wiped out ASAP... n why not Poornima Aadvaanii, Kaamat, Kher n other bajrangii appointed puppet kickassed & shown the door ASAP. LampaT rule removed from the states one by one, more chaddi governors sacked ASAP.

Their partner another nazi admirer fascist thugs... threaten and intimidate even the judiciary... says no one can arrest him... he is so shit scared of jail, he has been there & a nightmare it must be 4 him... [daydreaming that people of Maharaashtra gonna vote in a toRphoR lampaT party 2 rule them ha!]. Judiciary is not gonna be kind 4 all this drama, 2 intimidate the judiciary, beside there should be a contempt of court cases against Uma & in Baabri Mosque demolition case even Aadvaanii. And btw one after another they all gonna end up in jail.

:: Vande M/Um'mah trick 2 leav out Moslems ::

NDtv's new Uma puppet voiceover not good... Mulaayam, Laalu & ABV good ones. IndiaTV's promo it's not zang, looks like they don't even proof b4 it's published. This stupid Vande cow_am, bhaiNsam lol, maatram was a trick 2 exclude Muslims from the mainstream nationalists... they knew they got 'ummah' concept, making them trans-national, a belief trait praised by Sarojni Naaidu even vande their real moms not allowed, only entity worth bowing is Allaah, & he is 'laaShariek', 'lam Yalid', 'valaum yulad'. High time Muslim shud realize that they r in majority in here... and grab power one day!

:: Passing Finance Bill w/out Debate ::

11:03 AM 08/26/2004 :: SaRak chhap... gutterchhaap as VVIP... lol, from Uma 2 Georgie paggal ha! MMS shudn't have met them in the first place [may be Prez does the same 2 them]... were there security check [strip search :)] of these low-lives lumpen :) lol. Why Uma given spl cell/Guest Hse of an Univ... treat her as common criminal, Us adds 18 million population like of Australia [42+ medals, 4th gold wise] every year but can't bag a Gold @ the Olympics... lol. Shame on Indian opposition parties 4 behaving & proving that them r menial-lumpen, by boycotting the parliaments, passing the finance bills without debate.

02:29 PM 08/25/2004 :: gr8est parliament standoff ever... record loss of time & moolah. Me cable Op is a desi daaru thekedaar [country liquor contractor] shame on me city_zen, 4 allowing anti-social elements 2 control public broadcast/narrowcast media... On demand Qtv tuned but ETVurdu taken off... [no CNN, Pogo, Nickle or Ftv nor ZeeEnglish, Smile...] indirectly forcing 2 choose either Qtv or etvUrdu, but just one channel allotted 2 almost a third of the city population... bahut na insaafii heggii.

:: Ruling INC Not Resolute Enuff!! ::

This way the alienation deepens. [Here Saavarkar seem right 2 suggest Hindu & Muslim 2 nations & can't possibly live together in harmony or equality] 8-9 poor quality, dehaati Video channels r on with poor content... har shaakH pe lampaT baiThan heiN. INC/NCP stand on Saavarkar in Mahaar_Raashtra gonna cost them dearly. INC not resolute enuff!!! MH INC shud denounce this rabid communal ideologue... u gotta combat the evils of Indian polity or else u r doomed. Maharaashtra SP, RPI shud come out with facts on him, when there r chances of Muslim votes thinning 4 the INC/NCP, they wud toe the line... ha!

10:07 PM 08/24/2004 :: Uma B using media left right & center 2 do PR 4 herself & her Party... trying 2 confuse a heinious crime into a patriotic act... save all this 4 the judges... Pagan, heathen, aadivaasi media very gladly offering their services 2 her... "Indian Muslims should rather resign themselves to be considered as a minority, the recognition of whose rights should depend on the magnanimity of the majority. ~ Saavarkar" Most stupid jaahil leaders of the seculer camp in MH defending puk puk VD Saavarkar... so even the secularist r the believers in stupid fascist rabid communalist as a 'hero'... just b'coz telling the truth about him will cost negative votes... Maanvendra kiddo is not articulate enuff 2 be lumpen spokesperson... and Jindal is just a jingoistic moron... PeeMahaajan not seen on telly more than 2 weeks... is he dead!?! foat ho gaye ka lampaT?!?

:: Accused 'daaghii' only 4 the French ::

04:35 PM 08/24/2004 :: Ah Amar Singh [na ghar ka na ghaaT ka :)] 2 come parroting daagHii daaghii?!? Just accused is not daagHii, the conviction is needed, probably the highest court one... [only the Phrench consider the accused guilty till proven innocent, instead in here... its accused only till proven guilty.] Since last ruling coalition broke this norm...

ko re Maayawatii... budhdhii bhaiNse calling herself... laRkii ha! ticket bechoo, u wud loose all ur support 2 the Udit Raaj way or 2 the Paaswaan way... Paaswaan can't possibly take up the daagHii issue, that wud be supporting the opposition line...

09:52 PM 08/23/2004 :: In what a dilemma these bajrangiis r into... 2 loov tricolor or hate, constitution they love or hate... Savarkar glorification not possible moron filths... 4 his support 4 Naazi/fascist thugs, beside being rabidly communal. Even the world community of nation wudn't approve that. Why the bajrangii insisting 'tainted' or charge sheeted minister resign, while they r the ones who broke this moral code by the ruling INC most of the times... but probably they r insisting on this b'coz it will get rid of 2 Muslim ministers. RSS must be very unhappy that a minority guy heading the nation... confrontational is not them but uooz. Let the danda called 'state is an instrument of repression' begun full force dear Mr Paatil!

:: Outlaw Hate Speech ::

Let INC lead coalition say that right thing the Raaj Dhamma way is 2 disbanded/outlawed VHP... since it was their bandh call which went haywire and caused so much misery 2 the hoi polloi in Gujaraat... since the last guv was biased towards them and couldn't take a decision 2 outlaw it... V do it... and RSS/Bajrang Dal asked 2 come clear on their hate agenda...

09:11 PM 08/22/2004 :: How desperate they were 2 get in power in MP. In a mad power drunk drive they got in here with false propaganda onslaught... & look what happens... how the menial-lumpen can provide rule of law... projecting 'leader' b4 the election, Ghaagvaanii's presidential election campaign... 6-7 months and the incoming admn failed... and since when the tri-color b'comes their jhanda... they hated this tri-color 4 long and deep down they resent this constitution... may be Sikh organization oppose her coming 2 JaliaNwaalla baagH...

:: Uma goin' jail... Uma chakki peesing... ::

Ah the pansaarii 'Aaj Tak' reporter reports [praising her oratory/venom spitting] "Uma got Saraswati residing on her tongue" hey jaahil reporters know b4 what u say... insulting Saraswati is no good thing... :). Now Karnatak Police aaying... Uma goin' jail... Uma chakki peesing... aiim piising aaim piising... nah, jhanda pheraying aaiim pheraying, aaiim phehraying... lol.

So the 'tainted' or 'daagHii' issue settled/defined... the charge sheeted r daagHii [tainted] & only the warranted resigns... from next guv on not even charge sheeted as minister-sinister... what about daagHii Aadvaanii as LOO ;), as Leader of Opposition... has he coom clean offa Baabri Mosque demolition case... and off the riot followed by that, 3000 dead.

:: 'tainted' LoO::

...talking of Su_raaj or Su'arr_raaj or whatever [how that is possible when ur projected leaders as law breaker of not decent & communal kind, of zubaan ka halka & changing admn 6 monthly basis, & btw so much waste of moolah & time as well this is conning of the mandate... subverting democracy by fascist propaganda] whatever u do hurts democracy... & the communities & the society & the nasion... Aadvaanii misdeeds gonna catch up with him... bad patch on Indian democracy/polity that such a man is LoO... ?!!!? socho socho... Aadvaanii, Thakeray what a shame & sham u Rrr!!!

04:31 PM 08/21/2004 :: Another proof of them as menial-lumpen... she sent her resignation 2 party president and not the governor... they insulting intelligence of the jaahils... and stupid 'pagan' 'heathen' media still talking of the flag and allowing her 2 keep parroting the flag... media-guys not informing public that court had instructed not 2 do so, unfurling the flag not so holy & noble ha! 6 people were killed, why she shouldn't be arrested & sent 2 jail [these most debased of pimps all shield one another and never a politician sent 2 jail 4 playing havoc 2 the lives of the hoi polloi]. Isn't it time 4 CBI sleuths 2 knock on their doors & their powerful corporate supporters... & the ones who r causing/contributing inflation rise...

:: Sushallow, ndtv & Khandwa ::

Hey NDtv ur puppet of Shushma Swaraaj is as ugly, disgusting & repulsive as herself but Venky winker puppet is ugly & lampaT enuff but why his puppet doesn't wink while he does it so often... and so far Khandwa & Chhapra were rhymed Khaandwa and chhaapra but now they r even spelling Khaandwa in Devnaagri in the weather map

07:46 PM 08/20/2004 :: Uma B done... good riddance... now she is trying 2 hide behind the flag, ha! won't work, won't work... has the RSS, the social menace danga designer Muslim haters start unfurling the tri-color @ the RSS HQs?!? btw 6 lives lost following her hate speech... so much more blood on these hoodlums heads, good law is taking some fookin' course... how about Ayodhia muqadmaas [cases]...

Why rotten communal seeds party meeting on Monday 23rd... day dreaming court relief 4 the warranted CM of central province... doin' time of the 'moral' kind... :), but bakre kii amma kab tak kHair manaayegii... lol.

:: Nav Nau Durgas ::

9 Nav Nau Durgaas Sonia the Soniashwari, Brinda karaat the Bindeshwari, Vandna Shiva as Vandeshwari, Arundhati as Buddheshwari, Medha the Medheshwari, Aruna as Aruneshwari, Shabaana as Lefteshwari, Teesta Tessteshwari, Madhu Kishwar as Kishwari [Maneka, Saeeda, Mohini Giri didn't know i wud run short of noombers...]

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Savarkar and nazism

From "Hindutva’s foreign tie-up in the 1930s" :: Archival evidence By Marzia Casolari

At this point we have to dwell on the crucial problem of Savarkar's position vis-à-vis the European radical right.

The reference to the German minorities in Czechoslovakia was an implicit comparison with the Indian situation. As Savarkar asserted in a speech in the presence of some 4000 people at Poona on 11 October 1938, if a plebiscite would have taken place in India, Muslims would have chosen to unite with Muslims and Hindus with Hindus. This was a consequence of the principle according to which it was not enough living together for a few centuries to form a nation, as "The common desire to form a nation was essential for the formation of a nation". During Savarkar's presidentship the anti-Muslim rhetoric became more and more radical, and distinctly unpleasant. It was a rhetoric that made continuous reference to the way Germany was managing the Jewish question. Indeed, speech after speech, Savarkar supported Hitler's anti-Jewish policy, and, on 14 October 1938, he suggested the following solution for the Muslim problem in India:

A Nation is formed by a majority living therein. What did the Jews do in Germany? They being in minority were driven out from Germany.

Then, towards the end of the year in Thana, in front of RSS militants and local sympathizers, right at the time when the Congress expressed its resolution against Germany, Savarkar stated that
In Germany the movement of the Germans is the national movement but that of the Jews is a communal one.
And again the next year, on 29 July, in Poona, he said:
Nationality did not depend so much on a common geographical area as on unity of thought, religion, language and culture. For this reason the Germans and the Jews could not be regarded as a nation.
Without this unity, not even Muslims and Hindus could be regarded as belonging to same nation. Indian Muslims should rather resign themselves to be considered as a minority, the recognition of whose rights should depend on the magnanimity of the majority. Finally, at the end of 1939, on occasion of the 21st session of the Hindu Mahasabha, Savarkar made one of the most explicit comparisons between the Muslim question in India and the Jewish problem in Germany:
... the Indian Muslims are on the whole more inclined to identify themselves and their interests with Muslims outside India than Hindus who live next door, like Jews in Germany.

hyder ginwalla hginwalla

:: Puky Ads :: Urdu Faarsii Paalii Pra'krit Univ. ::

12:29 AM 08/19/2004 :: Kudos Mulla Mulayam 4 Univs of Urdu, Faarsii & Arabic... do V hear Amar Singh parroting 'Haath kangan ko aarsii-faarsii-paalii kya"... sure there must be state promotion of Samskrit... I wud loov Paalii/Prakrit promotion as well... & why not Chinese & Japanese ones!!! R Venkatraman in conversation with Raajiiv Mehrotra/DDnoose where he kept talking about representative democracy... closer 2 proportional representation system of voting... instability in France pre-Charles deGaul reign.

09:07 AM 08/18/2004 :: 'Hum Loag' and 'Big Fight' offa NDtv stable were good... 2 many cheap low quality telly ads [KaRwah Choath & GuptaJEE ones, IndianAirlines one real sweet], even ad guys goin' bajrangii or what!!! MMS the INC PM's speech was best ever. But this guv should be standing firm 2 combat these low lives menial-lumpen bajrangis... Why MMS the PM didn't talk about complete eradication of illiteracy menace & reckoning new kinda illiteracy as digital illiteracy from his first address from the ramparts of Laal Qila!?!

:: DIGITAL-DIVIDE ERADICATION ::

[Ah Digital-Divide Eradication Program launched by some guy called Hyder Ginwalla, reports 'Dainik Agnipath' Kudos! Saandipani/Mahakaatyayan land, the ancient capital of India leads the way...] update 8/19/04 12:48:45 PM :: last night midnight DDN showeth Mallapuram, Kerala first 100% digital literate village by some NGO called 'Akshay'...

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GVFSUP E-Zine

No Technological Equity in our Communities Either!
Nor here nor there!?!

HOFFMAN: "One of the things we found that was very surprising in our study, was that when whites and African Americans do not have a computer in the home, whites are still more likely to use the computer. In fact this difference was dramatic and they (whites) are much more likely to use the Internet than were African-Americans. When we poked a little further into these results, we found that the reason was that whites but not African-Americans, are much more likely to have access at non-traditional locations... for example community centers, libraries with Internet access, using computers at friends' and relatives' houses, and so on. And we felt that this was an extremely disquieting result because it's suggesting very clearly that we do not have equity in our communities with respect to this very important technological innovation." ~ DONNA HOFFMAN, Associate Professor, Vanderbilt University, Co-Director, Project 2000

:: SC Lambast Gujarat guv & Bhagat Singh's fury ::

02:20 PM 08/17/2004 :: Ah SC ask Gujaraat guv 2 re-open 2000 odd cases of crimes against the minority [?] communities... why SC doesn't say that these right wing communal fascist can't be an entity claimant 2 enforce rule of law... Parliament held 4 ransom again and that 2 over Puk Puk Vinaayak Daamodar Saavarkar... who just didn't ask pardon from the English but also offered 2 work 4 them, while Bhagat Singh didn't even contemplate asking forgiveness... he wud have died of shame instead... He was furious that his father asked 4 mercy from the Brits.

09:21 PM 08/16/2004 :: the tainted 'boycott' party 2 trishool distributing Gaandhi baaba assassins... Godse recited RSS prayer or oath just b4 noose tightened on him... just Bilqees case & Best bakery case is neither justice nor justice seen 2 be done dear kaala koTs... It took US 2 punish a hate crime/murder of a Siikh just 18 months or so... Indian SC takes cool 2 & half years 2 re-initiate the state sponsored genocide cases... what a fookin’ shame!!! but than these baboons do everythiing on a bullock cart with 5 years planning. lol...

:: Stigma talkin' of taint ha! ::

What about Baabri Mosque demolition crime!?! what about 3000 deaths followed by that stupid lumpen mob drive crime against humanity by AadvaaNii... stigma talking of taint, kalank talking of daaGh huh! Their partner in crime Singhal spitting venom & threatening another Raam temple agitation. Why these chicken shits still persistent on their hate agenda... the moment they r thrown in over crowded disgusting jails they gonna fart out their agitation chicken shittin shit... like their idol Puk Puk Savarkar, the co-accused of the Gaandhi assassination.

06:21 AM 08/13/2004 :: this Vivek stupid kiddo & Aish's movie 2 be released just won't be a flop but all their movies 2 come gonna bomb @ the box office... their producers doomed 4 good... Manpreet Braar-Waalia is sheer delight on SABtv... but this guy Manoj Raghuvanshii is disgusting & repulsive, t pitty his guest @ the show 'Khula Manch'/sabTV...

:: Dubya siege of Shi'ite Shrines

Dubya the retarded buffoon starting another war... this time the Shi'ite nation within Iraq... This war party of Bussha the buffoon, Cheney, Rumsfield, Blair, Aznar, Howard & Rice & their kins doomed and no naam-o-nishaaN path... Who is this Sushil Modi and why Indian media giving him so much importance!! When these genocidal maniacs will be booked 4 their crime against humanity?!? demolition of the Baabri mosque & killings of 3000 people followed by that hateful campaign of Aadvaanii... Balls Thakrey 4 more than 1000 deaths!?! India still longing 2 be the member of the Security council la UN... but they blew their chances by doing Pokhran-II by the stupid genocidal maniacs...

07:02 AM 08/11/2004 :: Street Honking still unregulated, even schools & hospitals not spared by these most jaahils of all people o the world... Awaaz and Aaj Ka Karobar of CNBC/TV18 shud respell their programme as Aawaaz and Aaj Ka Kaarobaar... Aakash Univ. as Aakaash... single a suffice 4 aa in the end of the word, so Shobaa & Jayalalithaa is wrong... but these superstitious bhaiNses did it under advice of some numerologist...

:: Hydra Headed BJP Marginalized B4 Outlawed ::

Aadvaanii dreamt about guv falling by September... now he says guv will last 18 months... billi dreams. They will be significantly reduced whenever next GE held, sooner that happens is good 4 this lands. Arjun remarks on RSS hurting them hard... but this is just the talking business... wait and save ur reaction when actual action starts... Gaandhii assassin hiMsaks will not just be removed from all guv jobs [there r 2 many of them lumpen inside the system] but ur hydra headed menace will be marginalized even b4 U r outlawed... all those who supported them, including the Media dallaas shud pay up ASAP... MMS is no good as PM 4 he is not a politician who can combat the menial-lumpen of Indian polity... Arjun 'Sher' shud be one, only thing against him is his age & health...

04:48 AM 08/08/2004 :: Karan Thaapar's Interview of Romila Thaapar/BeebWS, Deepak Chopra's by Raajive Malhotra/DDN were good. AaDvaaNii talking about his party's plan to project itself as 'pro-farmers' and 'pro-poor' acchha! @ the time of election, these right winger, communal fascist tried 2 go centrist and now they r pretending going left... ha! rotfl. National Party in South Africa dismantling and joining ANC... wonder when this lumpen hate party meet a similar fate!

01:17 AM 08/06/2004 :: For the past half century, all our lives have been affected by the outcome of a single bombing mission that took place on 6 August 1945 in the closing days of World War 2. The Enola Gay dropped the first operational atomic bomb over Hiroshima. As the early morning commuters emerged from their air raid shelters, the aircraft was passing out of sight. Its 12 kiloton bomb was descending slowly by parachute to detonate only when it reached 1900 feet above the centre of the city. At 8.15, about 83,000 people died, another 53,000 were injured and 25 square miles of the city vanished. Three days later, Nagasaki suffered a similar fate, and, on 15 August , Emperor Hirohito broadcast his decision to negotiate for peace. Despite a continuing debate about the morality of nuclear weapons, most people believe that the nuclear destruction of two Japanese cities at least brought the war to a more rapid end, and thus saved the lives of perhaps a million American soldiers. Conventional bombing in Dresden and Tokyo had been more destructive, but had not been as decisive.

American Atomic-Genocide of the People of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, August, 1945

05:20 AM 08/05/2004 :: ...Madhu Kishwar on City60/StarNews and her host kept rhyming gHariibi as garibi in that Baangla teenage 4 sale story... Maneka the bajrangi MP, in the laps of communal fascist... in a new avataara, as an IndiaTV anchor is a sham, beside she is rustic... hasn't learn kH or gH as yet, qaaf she can't possibly learn in a lifetime :)... most 'pagan' 'heathen' babes on idiot box keep butchering the Urdu language. Ranjini Menon isn't just pretty but smart enuff 2 rhyme even qaaf. Urdu signage in Delhi being corrected is good as reported by ETV_Urdu... a 24 hrs Urdu channel is needed, muslims r urban centric and almost a third in most cities. Laalu needs 2 take care of Urdu signage on Railway station.

Tehriik-e-baqa-e-Urdu

tamaam urdudaaN tabqoN se guzaarish hai, ke baqa-e-Urdu ke liye do ahad kareiN ham sab... 1) har uss FMCG brand ko tarjiih deiN jo Urdu ko na sirf baahirii packaging pe likhe, balkii istemaal ke tariiqe bhii Urdu meiN likhe. Doem 2) shahr kii un dukaan-o-karobaar ko chuniye jo apna signboard Urdu zubaaN meiN bhii likhe. Is apeal ko A3 size enlarge kar kissi diiwar pe chaspaaN karne se pehle, is silsile ko 5-10 photocopies kar alag alag shahroN aur qasboN tak daak se pohchaayeiN...

Every state in the Indian union about 2 ask 4 packages & spl. packages... ha! wonder if this land b'comes packagistaan one day!

02:44 AM 08/03/2004 :: Uma raag served 2 the media, his political advisor singing ghazals & her fav., minister joining him in... and Su_chandana of TNN/STOI spelled taale... in 'aa aisey gagan ke tale, jahaN gHam bhi na ho aaNsu bhi na ho..." [look who is singing] aaNsoo was spelled as 'aasu'... :), Rajdeep need 2 re_spell his name... coz raj is blood in saMskrit... Raajdeep it should be... Godaan is spelled right but why Gulzaar hasn't amended his name... & btw Prem Chand was an Urdu writer & not Hindi... wonder if he was familier or fluent in devnaagri...

4 last few days Uma the loud mouth speaking foul language left right & center, BJP doesn't have decent educated leader 2 lead the central province... The MP governor @ Barkatullah Univ., about decline in education... asked nationalism & humanism 2 be inculcated in the curriculum, but it is paradoxical... these two do not go together... ["Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind." -Albert Einstein (attributed)]

:: Nationalism :: measles of mankind ::

Venky the winker talked about 'work culture' 'discipline' eh! distant unattainable dreams 4 yooz menial-lumpen, not ur cuppa tea... ideology ideology he kept talking about, beside nationalism [measles of mankind] and the interest of the country... nah Venkiah u do not have any thing good 2 be done 4 this land... u got nothing in favour and everything against this lands... segregating people slows the progress.. from that angle they all r anti-national...

05:01 PM 08/02/2004 :: Digvijay singh is articulate... cautioning BJP not 2 revert 2 core hindutwa agenda. But after brainstorming session @ Goa, the menial-lumpen spokesman Mahaajan spoke about their being a 'free' party... accha! but ur associates will find an excuse 2 leave ur failed & sinking ship b4 they lose any further with u in arms, irrespective of u returning 2 ur agenda of hate or not...

:: Chintan Chinta or Chit'ta baiThak!?! ::

03:02 PM 08/01/2004 :: ...chintan baiThak turned into chinta baiThak, by 2009 it will be a chita baithak. Both RSS BJP outlawed or marginalized... the opposition namely the BJP, boycotting the parliament and its standing committees, no problem... its raather good that the menial-lumpen giving away their rights & returning 2 street where people of india have thrown them onto... is govt., doing the same 2 them what they did 2 tehelka and its financiers...

So deploying army last just didn't cost almost 10,000 crores, but it cost more than the Kaargil 'war'... 300 more soldiers 'shaeedoed' 4 no_thing... ha! and just 3 truck driver hostages in Iraaq & so much hulla-gulla over it?!?

:: Dubya :: Numero Uno GlobalVillage Idiot ::

Dubya the numero uno GlobalVillage idiot scaring his own people, his deluded day-dreaming 2 return for another term... which almost seem impossible in spite of all this media & intelligence manipulation...

Best Buddha sermon Diamond Sutra on the perfection of wisdom

The Diamond Sutta

1. This is what I have heard ::

Once, the Buddha was staying at Anathapindika’s retreat in the Jeta Grove near the city of Sravasti, with a gathering of 1250 monks. After dressing and making his begging rounds in the city and eating his one meal, he sat with the monks.

2. The monk Subhuti paid his respects to the Buddha and asked a question: “What should one who wants to travel the Bodhisattva path keep in mind?”

3. The Buddha answered, “A Bodhisattva should keep this in mind: All creatures, whether they are born from the womb or hatched from the egg, whether they transform like butterflies or arise miraculously, whether they have a body or are purely spirits, whether they are capable of thought or not capable of thought: All of these I vow to help enter nirvana before I rest there myself!

“But keep in mind, Subhuti, that in reality there is no such thing as an I who helps, and no such thing as an other whom I help. A Bodhisattva who does not recognize this reality is no true Bodhisattva!

4. “A true Bodhisattva takes no pleasure in this act of compassion and has no interest in appearances. He simply helps others selflessly.

“Can you measure the east, the west, the north, and the south, Subhuti?”

“No, Lord.”

“Neither can you measure the merit of someone who can help others without thought of himself.”

5. “Subhuti! Can anyone tell who is a Buddha on the basis of physical characteristics?”

“No, Lord. You have taught that Buddhahood is not a matter of physical characteristics.”

“So one who is concerned with appearances will never see the Buddha, but one is not concerned with appearances may.”

6. Subhuti asked, “Lord, will there always be people who understand your message?”

Buddha answered, “Don’t doubt it, Subhuti! There will always be people who, hearing the message, will adhere to the precepts and practice our way. Our message will reach people simply because it is true! There will come a time when many will no longer need words, but will be beyond words. We must all strive to go beyond the words, because words can be clung to, and we should not cling to things. Understand that the words of the Buddha are like a raft built to cross a river: When its purpose is completed, it must be left behind if we are to travel further!

7. “So tell me, Subhuti. Have I taught the ultimate teaching?”

“No, Lord. The ultimate teaching is not something which can be taught, because the ultimate teaching is not a thing which can be grasped or clung to.”

8. The Buddha said, “Tell me, Subhuti. If someone gave away a universe full of treasures to help others, would he gain great merit?”

“Yes, Lord. His merit would be great. But you have also taught us that, in order for this act of generosity to be genuine, he would not have thought of gaining merit. In fact, he would not have thought of himself at all!”

The Buddha said, “Now, if someone understands and passes on even four sentences of my message to another, his generosity is even greater. He is not just giving something, he is helping to create future Buddhas!”

9. “Tell me, Subhuti. Would someone who is beginning to understand my message say to himself ‘I have accomplished something grand’?”

“No, Lord. Saying something like that would mean that the beginner doesn’t understand that there is no ego there to take credit for anything at all!”

“And would someone who is highly advanced in his understanding of my message say to himself ‘I have accomplished something grand’?”

“No, Lord. Anyone saying such a thing would also be saying that there is indeed an ego that attains something, and something to attain. These are not the thoughts of someone who understands your message.

“Lord, you have said that I have been successful in achieving peace and freedom from passions. In fact, I no longer crave the status of a saint. If I did, I am sure that you would never have thought so much of me!"

10. “Subhuti, If I say, ‘Bodhisattvas adorn the heavens,” would I be speaking the truth?”

“No, Lord. Adornments are illusions, and illusions have no place in the heavens.”

“And so Bodhisattvas should rid their minds of ego, and cease their preferences for one odor or another, one sound or another, one sight or another. A Bodhisattva should have no attachment or aversion to anything.”

The Buddha asked, “Subhuti, if a man had a body as huge as a mountain, would he be a great man?”

“No, Lord. Because “a great man” is only words, and being a great man is an illusion, created by the belief in ego.” ...

13. Then Subhuti asked the Buddha, “Lord, what shall we call this sermon?”

The Buddha answered, “Call it ‘The Diamond Sutta on the Perfection of Wisdom.’ Like a diamond blade, it can cut through all delusion!” ...

14. Then Subhuti suddenly had a full awareness of the meaning of the sermon, and was moved to tears. “Lord, thank you for this sermon. Anyone who hears it and understands it with a pure mind will be moved by it. Even hundreds of years into the future, its clarity will be appreciated." ....

32. “Subhuti, if someone gave away enough treasure to fill a universe, he would still not gain as much merit as someone who manages to understand and pass on a few lines of this sermon.

“So what should be on one’s mind as one begins the Bodhisattva journey?

"Like a falling star, like a bubble in a stream,
Like a flame in the wind, like frost in the sun,
Like a flash of lightning or a passing dream --
So should you understand the world of the ego.”

Subhuti and the rest of the monks were filled with joy at hearing the Buddha’s sermon.

 

hyder ginwalla hginwalla


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