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Some Wonderful Sayings about Peace

When will it appear, the sunrise of that day when humanity will turn itself to light of Truth, when the appeal of those who are helping is finally heard and their words are enacted? But come what may! I intend to strive as though the time were already here! ~ Zarathustra, 600 B.C.

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Communal Lata & Sahaara Gaffe

02:19 AM 09/29/2004 :: 2 much praise 4 Lata the stupid gullible bhaiNse... who gives support 2 Hindutwa lumpen... standing beisde genocidal maniacs, hate advocates Aadvaanii, Baals Thakrey... lampaTy channels kept repeating... meri aawaaz hii pehchaan hai.. indeed ONLY the voice is her ID... rest is nil baTe sannaaTa... lol... but a ghaaTii learning Urdu so well and most Urdu lyrics she sang so well is a miracle... Sahaara MP is so poor in content that they credited Shakeel Badaayuni song 2 saahir "ek shahnshaa ne banwa ke haNsii taaj mahal/ saarii duniya ko mohabbat kii nishaanii dii hai..." While original Saahir poam on Taaj was...

Taaj tere liye ek mazhar-e-ulfat hii sahii/ tumko iss vaadii-e-rangiiN se aqiidat hii sahii/ mere mehboob kaNhiiN aur mila kar mujhko/ bazm-e-shaahii meiN gHariiboN ka gHuzar kya ma'ani?/ sabt [engraved] jis rah pe hoN satvat-e-shaahii ke nishaaN/ uss pe ulfat bhari roohoN ka safar kya maanii?/ ye chamanzaar ye jamuna ka kinaara, ye mahal/ ye munaqqash dar-o-deewaar, ye mehraab ye taaq/ ek shanshaah ne daulat ka sahaara le kar/ ham gHariboN kii mahabbat ka uRaaya he mazaaq/ Meri mehboob kaNhiiN aur mila kar mujhse. [Niita Awatramaanii must have this @ urdupoetry.com] Taaj Mahal :: Saahir

man is polygamous by nature, down the ages anyone who could afford 2 have more than one woman, has done so especially most rulers... but Shaah JahahaaN just didn't loov his babe but look how he found a way 2 become immortal...

11:41 PM 09/23/2004 :: hey bad PR Dubya admn... refusing entry 2 Yusuf Islaam aka Cat Stevens... known romantic pop idol of the past... vast noombers of American heard of him... America is afraid of influence of Islaam 2 grow... and perhaps Yusuf da shud use this against US far right... by addressing 60s & 70s of generations 2 rethink on their belief set...

Jetly the legal-eagel cud have traded his 'passive' role in future politics 4 BCCI prez... Sharad Power gonna get the control over big moneyed Kirkeet circus seems pretty certain... poor Uma not getting her way... and so many other obstacles in her way in race of prominance among the lumpen... Haiti floods caused by hurricane Jeanne... 1000 killed... US the largest of polluter of the village Globe... more than 2/3 i guess... and u turnoing on 'Kyoto Protocol' of this GVI #1 Dubya... part responsible 4 these calamities...

07:42 PM 09/21/2004 :: Prez Lula @ UNGA... calling 2 fight hunger... instead of warring on false pretexts 4 the capitalist's profit... "Peace is not arising from poverty..." Gaandhi baaba said something 2 that effect... as long as there is inequality, terrorism cannot end... or something...

"If the world were a global village of 100 people, 1/3 would be rich or at moderate income, 2/3 would be poor. Of the 100 residents, 47 would be unable to read and only 1 would have a college education. About 35 would be suffering from hunger and malnutrition, at least 1/2 would be homeless or living in substandard housing. Of the 100 people, 6 would be Americans. These 6 would have over 1/3 of the village's entire income, and the other 94 would subsist on the other 2/3's. How could the wealthy 6 live in peace with their neighbours? Surely they would be driven to arm themselves against the other 94... perhaps even spend as Americans do about twice as much per person on military defense as the total income of 2/3's of the villagers." ~ Hazel Henderson

05:50 PM 09/19/2004 :: Uma B is goin' berserk lampaTy... abusing everybody left right & center wanting 2 get attention... poor soul unaware that Bhaartiya establishment got 2 get rid of such stigma offa its face sooner or later... 4 it brings shame 2 the nasion... PM bechaara has a name what he can't b'come... lol.. & beside Ritambra-UmaB chhaap lampaT can't even rhym votes... he rhyme it as 'oats' lol... low tech or high tech... it doesn't occur to them that them lumpen not fit enuff 2 rule... it's ur gobarchhaap regressive mindset which will make u loose election after election into oblivion... lol, nor Raamji gonna help them revive nor tricolor... :)...

ah Uma says she won't take any post [read admn] in future... meaning she realizes she not a good admnistrator... and she is choosing 2 be just a rabel rouser... but let's see how long the indian psyche puts up with u.

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07:45 PM 09/18/2004 :: It's not 2 close 2 call... neither here nor there... MH assembly ruling coalition of INC/NCP will get 160-180, LampaT Sena will be around 45-60... Beejan jeejan lol... will be 30-40 seats, 30+ for others... [Ah StaarNoose/AC Nielson poll gives them 148... meaning absolute majority... tathatsu...] proof that all their anticks won't work, last GE people were a bit confused with their media propaganda onslaught but this time their defeat will be decisive... Dubya moron is gonna loose badly... he didn't get a popular vote either the last time...

Ah Prabhu Chaawla recited an Allama Iqbaal couplet differently on CNBC, addressing some business forum... kHudi ko kar buland itna/ ke har taqdeer [he sayeth 'shae'] ke pehle/ kHuda bande se kHud pooche bata teri raza kya hai... Ibne Safi made a parody of it... kHud ko itna buland kar le/ ke Himaalaya pahaar ke oopper/ KHuda bande se kHud pooche/ [jab usse thand lagge] ke bata teri razaaii kiththe hai... lol...

Donald Trump, Agnivesh & Raag tutwa

Donald Trump U r friggin fuck fart get the fook outta here... U R FIRED!!! [as he sat in here in 'Vipassana Meditation' in me aashram... with shaven head recently inducted into the monkhood apprentice... he does his beggin round... eats something which leads 2 smelly fart... he does that and he is fired... 4 the day actually :)]

Swaamii Agnivesh is right about bhagwa been used-abused & heavily burdened thiing... he was gr8 on GENext/DDN & sounded like a tathagat talking about spending on health & education instead of defense... but hai bhayya Agnivesh t wud ask the same as DrBSBR Ambedkar asked the maha'atma 2 do in 1936... 2 denounce hindu scriptures...

03:13 PM 09/17/2004 :: S Jaipal Reddy is suppose 2 be a liberal & fair guy... but look @ bajrangii Samskrit promotion still on, wonder how many people speak it... and it is on on both DD channels @ 10 AM but Urdu - the 2nd most spoken language in the world - has a 3 PM slot & just on DDN... gobarchhaap do not deserve 2 rule... wonder when Muslims realize that they r in majority here & not minority... & grab power...

12:24 AM 09/13/2004 :: Shame on Indian judiciary... shame on Election Commission 4 allowing this lampaTi emotive politics... mixing religion with politics... putting Indian democracy in harm's way...

06:24 PM 09/12/2004 :: Uma saying she is not out 2 ask 4 votes... ha! ...just creating atmosphere 4 it... :), mallichh jhote makkaar dhongii... Ban VHP ASAP... ABV poor chap... now consoling himself with 4th of this and 5th of that... he also said they wud guard the national interest... ha! He was going on as if addressing the nation, but barely 4-5 minutes channel after channels started 2 take him off the air... U all deserve 2 be outlawed and with ur lampaTy deeds U wud eventually be outlawed or marginalized... Mhaajan dubaoed ABV luTia and now day dreaming 2 win Mahar_Raashtra. LampaT Baal Thaka_rey Ur mob gobarchhaap rule people have tasted... they must be deluded 2 vote u in...

Jaipal Reddy was reported in the local papers saying Aadvaanii was the first ever daagHii minister... :), and how he abused his office 2 get outta A_yudhiya Mosque demolition cases... Laalu was apt asking him 2 come clean offa Liberhan commission... he kept saying Times, Times offa Time... :), [and none of the media guys corrected him] INC shudn't repeal POTA, instead put all these gobarchhaap disruptive hate mongers in...

This genocidal sick maniac of Gujaraat... the x-bhaTiara turned prachaarak talking of demography... wonder this loony lampaT know even the spelling or the meaning of it... lol... and btw not just Paak-Baangla border influx shud be checked but Nepaal border as well... t had half a dozen domestic helper of Nepaaliis in 4 yrs, 90% domestic servants in Delhi r nepaaliis... why Delhi bajrangiis kept talking of Bangladeshiis.

Viir or Chicken

Shinde & Prabha Rau morons not clearly condemning VDS... ‘Shared Power’ ;) was right when he said VDS not even acceptable 2 both set of bajrangiis... may be this dhul-mull attitude of INC/NCP cost them muslim & Guju votes... the first thing first after the MH polls... remove his name from the port Blair Airport & remove his pic from central hall... he was found guilty of conspiracy 2 kill the faather of the nation in '69 by Jeewan Laal Kapoor commission, whome the world call mahaa'atma & a saint... while these bajrangiis hate him, but on telly refer 2 him respectfully... how delighting the MH cops hitting lumpen the V Hate Parishad hard... and hey Laalu jaan do not allow/spare a single bajrangii traveling in ur train without a ticket... nor spare any 'hindu' hippy traveling without ticket...

08:18 PM 09/10/2004 :: hey gobarchhapoN do not utter the dignified thing such as Muslim, Sonia, tricolor or even INC... such low lives menial-lumpen as yooz not just worth even uttering these words, but it is ugly & repulsive... su_raaj is not possible offa u 4 obvious reason Mr ADDvaani... from now on me boycott all such gobarchhaaps...

Gobarchhaap aadivaasii pagan heathen media keep calling Puk Puk VDS as 'veer' is a shame... many secularist keep calling Bha'rat as Hindustaan... which is wrong... this country has gone 2 the dogs it seems. A morally bankrupt jaahil society... Even CPI seem a communal outfit by writing in Urdu 'Hindustani Communist Party' @ their HQs instead of Bhartiya Communist Party... JK BaaNThia the census commissioner looks like on his way out 4 playing in bajrangii hands... even Shivraaj PaaTil on his way out of Home Affairs...

Jivanlal Kapoor comission...

Shame on Karnataka INC guv 4 withdrawing cases against Uma lampaT, the failed CM of MP, record numbers of rape in her reign... loadz of scams including Kumbh... Shame on MHPCC 4 defending VDS... VDS role on Gaandhi assassination was clear in 1969 by Jeevan Lal Kapoor commission... New 'U Decide'/ndtv is stupid, and doesn't look like lasting longer than 'Newsnight' or 'I2I'... right now pagan heathen day dreaming 2 come @ par with Hollywood or taking them over... ha! Wonder if pagan heathen can ever take over kikes... let there be a movie channel which show non-hollywood, non-bollywood cinema... can StarNews put late night Fox feed 4 US election coverage...

this religious census survey is a farce... millions of tribals who certainly rn't hindu... what about New religionists 102 million worldwide... Spiritist 12 million, Non-religionists 771 million, Atheist 150 million... but then what one expect of pagan heathen 2 reckon all other groups. Zorastrian on the verge of extinction... count atleast half of the children born of paarsii women married outside the community... high time paarsii panchaayat decides 2 include such children into the community.

11:02 AM 09/09/2004 :: Dist. Admn., & SP r jaahils 2... DD1 & DDN just shouldn't be included in the cable channel pool but it shud be on all the time... Its a law, DDN goes outta tune & stays off 4 days... me cable op a desii daaru thekedaar doesn't reckon nor does the city admn., SP & DA rn't doing their job... ETVurdu [which is most popular, almost a third of city population watch], ZeeEnglish, Pogo, Nickle, CNN, FTV, Ptv, ZeeSmile not included either... 5-6 channels r off perpetually, IndiaTV off more than a week. What a fookin' shame... how difficult it is 2 live with these lampaT tribals... 2 much coverage & attention given 2 low lives menial-lumpen sardaar Uma B... me boycotting noose channels 4 atleast a fortnight.

08:08 PM 09/07/2004 :: 2001 census religious population analysis is out... Muslim breeding faster than the rest, their numbers increasing not just by increased fertility rate but conversion... bajrangiis worried about their growth... Moslem r the largest chunk of Indian population... Naanavati exclusive on NDtv, another set of Bajrangiis on 'India Bole' discussing Muslim rate of growth... NDtv a Bajrangii mouthpiece or what?!?

Hidden religious apartheid

2 much coverage on Janmaashtmii... Saavarkar rules... majority in too much maza, even these INC bunch of baboons seem Puk Puk Saavarkar's children & not Gaandhii baaba's... these figures doesn't speak the whole truth... Muslim the most deprived & marginalized... a hidden religious apartheid is on... financially, politically the most weaker of all communities...

2020 they may exceed 60% + of India’s population, how long pagan heathen can remain the same... they have 2 convert 2 Islaam, or Sikhism or Christianity... [bajrangiis talking of 'taint', the daagH... even ur gods r daaghii... Ganesh the laddu thief & flute playing, dancing, playboy god the butter thief]. Next census shud be done under UNDP supervision... & voters roll updation under some democracy watchdog.

07:45 AM 09/05/2004 :: By uttering those words that Bihaarii bajrangii proved amply that he didn't deserve 2 be a minister nor a bureaucrat... Ashok Bajpai & Rajendra Yaadav apt on ndtv/india lambasting them menial-lumpen... nashT nahiN... not even 2 be wiped out... but rooted out completely... ‘naist-e-naabood’ the be-sharam weed of Indian polity.

06:47 AM 09/04/2004 :: ...looks like Putin done. Him got 2 go down... like when Zaar had 2 go, had 2 go... Putin the ruthlessest of all Czars... Beeb showing sad & gory picture... what a fookin' tragedy...

Autocratic Putin fascist lied ::

01:15 AM 09/04/2004 :: Putin fascist guv lied... it wasn't 400 people in but about 1200... he lied again when he said kids safety paramount... then again saying they didn't start the attack... Putin's Chechen policy badly flawed, and EU rightly criticized it...

07:42 PM 09/02/2004 :: Ah Laalu does the right thing, ordering investigation into the Godhra Train coach fire... which did the triggering effect 4 the riots that followed killed 2500, 1000s of gory rapes & burning & lynching ka nanga naach...

GVI #1
Wud the real Dubya pl stand up... err! stand Down!!!

06:05 AM 09/02/2004 :: Ayn Rand couldn't give conservatives a bad name with her loony far far right delusions... no other republican war monger cud give it a bad name... but this GVI numero uno doin' a convention in NYC 4 the first time... spelling doom 4 it... not just 4 more years a distant dream... even the future seems bleak 4 them, may be Greens or some other party [Libertarian] b'com one of the mainstream party, and Republican party end up the National Party O SA way...

100s of kids hostage in Russia... this narcissi fascist dictator Put_in have no regard 4 human life... may do the same as last theatre one rescue, killing hundreds in the process... when states does the carpet bombing... no media hullagulla.

RSS, VDS & CNBC ::

12:16 AM 09/02/2004 :: ...Understanding Saavarkar/CNBC was good... kudos KT, a sane civilized, clear & precise debate [NDtv just keep trying 2 do 'balance' coverage, confused... like walking the thin rope]... Mridula Mukherjee was gr8... Devendra Swaroop highlighted VDS' opposition 2 'conversion' in the Jail... was reading a RSS published booklet the other day, focused on VDS... he observed that polarization was bitterly sharp between the communities even inside the prison... [but this booklet doesn't describe the way Swarup talks about it] the Hindu prisoners who touched 'their' utensils by mistake... used 2 be boycotted... many such Hindu converted 2 Islam... so he wud work on the issue... & those who touched their utensils in future... will not be boycotted so that they don't leave the hindu flock & convert... lol...

This set of 20 odd booklet, + some obtained from local RSS branch... most of these r rib tickling ridiculous... the one on VDS informed me about his mentor Maijheni, an Italian ideologue... the one on conserving holy cow, the 'jagat mom' keep talking about 'radioactivity'... drinking the milk & dung coating the walls saves from 'radiodharmita', lol... Also VDS fought hard 2 get prayer rights, likes of Muslims... ah! that trend still continued... if they pray outside the mosque... v do maha'aartii... :), if they do bhajans v do qawaalii... god know when these maliichhs will ever evolve... but mostly the Hindutwa guys trying 2 imitate the Muslim way... meaning accepting them as better evolved or following them in a way. [Martin Sheen said something 2 this effect, One shud carefully choose an enemy, coz u b'come one like them]

07:03 PM 09/01/2004 :: Satyagrah or is it sattagrah... menial-lumpen faraway from satya [truth] using such an expression is farce full force... how ridiculous it sounds when menial-lumpen of the indian polity talks about the tri-color or constitution... coz they happens 2 hate both of them... good that judiciary didn't bow 2 pressure... all this agitation threat is 2 subvert law taking its course... fascist modus operandi eh!

War Facts

05:28 AM 09/01/2004 :: WAR FACTS

In recorded history since 3600 BC, over 14,500 major wars have killed close to four billion people - two-thirds of the current world population.

In armed conflicts since 1945, 90 per cent of casualties have been civilians compared to 50 per cent in the Second World War and 10 per cent in the First.

The planning and execution of war remains controlled by men. But women and children are the main victims of violence in war and peace.

Even in peacetime, women are far more likely to experience violent abuse than men - for example one out of every six pregnant women in the US is battered during pregnancy.

A contribution to the militarization of society is to socialize children into thinking violence and war are justifiable and glorious. From military, defence and weapons-industry recruitment schemes to action-hero toys, society creates killers.

• There are at least 250,000 child soldiers fighting in armed conflict.
• Most countries consider young soldiers ‘volunteers’. But often coercion is involved - in Uganda around 8,000 children have been abducted for use as soldiers or prostitutes.
• Britain’s Manchester airport has had more than 1,000 security alerts a year caused by children taking toy guns on holiday.
• By the age of 16 an American child has seen, on average, 18,000 murders on television.

UN petition for US Regime Change By Jonathan Wilson/ nonviolence.org

This way the alienation deepens. [Here Saavarkar seem right 2 suggest Hindu & Muslim 2 nations & can't possibly live together in harmony or equality] 8-9 poor quality, dehaati Video channels r on with poor content... har shaakH pe lampaT baiThan heiN. INC/NCP stand on Saavarkar in Mahaar_Raashtra gonna cost them dearly. INC not resolute enuff!!! MH INC shud denounce this rabid communal ideologue... u gotta combat the evils of Indian polity or else u r doomed. Maharaashtra SP, RPI shud come out with facts on him, when there r chances of Muslim votes thinning 4 the INC/NCP, they wud toe the line... ha!

The Diamond Sutta

1. This is what I have heard:

Once, the Buddha was staying at Anathapindika’s retreat in the Jeta Grove near the city of Sravasti, with a gathering of 1250 monks. After dressing and making his begging rounds in the city and eating his one meal, he sat with the monks.

2. The monk Subhuti paid his respects to the Buddha and asked a question: “What should one who wants to travel the Bodhisattva path keep in mind?”

3. The Buddha answered, “A Bodhisattva should keep this in mind: All creatures, whether they are born from the womb or hatched from the egg, whether they transform like butterflies or arise miraculously, whether they have a body or are purely spirits, whether they are capable of thought or not capable of thought: All of these I vow to help enter nirvana before I rest there myself!

“But keep in mind, Subhuti, that in reality there is no such thing as an I who helps, and no such thing as an other whom I help. A Bodhisattva who does not recognize this reality is no true Bodhisattva!

4. “A true Bodhisattva takes no pleasure in this act of compassion and has no interest in appearances. He simply helps others selflessly.

“Can you measure the east, the west, the north, and the south, Subhuti?”

“No, Lord.”

“Neither can you measure the merit of someone who can help others without thought of himself.”

5. “Subhuti! Can anyone tell who is a Buddha on the basis of physical characteristics?”

“No, Lord. You have taught that Buddhahood is not a matter of physical characteristics.”

“So one who is concerned with appearances will never see the Buddha, but one is not concerned with appearances may.”

6. Subhuti asked, “Lord, will there always be people who understand your message?”

Buddha answered, “Don’t doubt it, Subhuti! There will always be people who, hearing the message, will adhere to the precepts and practice our way. Our message will reach people simply because it is true! There will come a time when many will no longer need words, but will be beyond words. We must all strive to go beyond the words, because words can be clung to, and we should not cling to things. Understand that the words of the Buddha are like a raft built to cross a river: When its purpose is completed, it must be left behind if we are to travel further!

7. “So tell me, Subhuti. Have I taught the ultimate teaching?”

“No, Lord. The ultimate teaching is not something which can be taught, because the ultimate teaching is not a thing which can be grasped or clung to.”

8. The Buddha said, “Tell me, Subhuti. If someone gave away a universe full of treasures to help others, would he gain great merit?”

“Yes, Lord. His merit would be great. But you have also taught us that, in order for this act of generosity to be genuine, he would not have thought of gaining merit. In fact, he would not have thought of himself at all!”

The Buddha said, “Now, if someone understands and passes on even four sentences of my message to another, his generosity is even greater. He is not just giving something, he is helping to create future Buddhas!”

9. “Tell me, Subhuti. Would someone who is beginning to understand my message say to himself ‘I have accomplished something grand’?”

“No, Lord. Saying something like that would mean that the beginner doesn’t understand that there is no ego there to take credit for anything at all!”

“And would someone who is highly advanced in his understanding of my message say to himself ‘I have accomplished something grand’?”

“No, Lord. Anyone saying such a thing would also be saying that there is indeed an ego that attains something, and something to attain. These are not the thoughts of someone who understands your message.

“Lord, you have said that I have been successful in achieving peace and freedom from passions. In fact, I no longer crave the status of a saint. If I did, I am sure that you would never have thought so much of me!"

10. “Subhuti, If I say, ‘Bodhisattvas adorn the heavens,” would I be speaking the truth?”

“No, Lord. Adornments are illusions, and illusions have no place in the heavens.”

“And so Bodhisattvas should rid their minds of ego, and cease their preferences for one odor or another, one sound or another, one sight or another. A Bodhisattva should have no attachment or aversion to anything.”

The Buddha asked, “Subhuti, if a man had a body as huge as a mountain, would he be a great man?”

“No, Lord. Because “a great man” is only words, and being a great man is an illusion, created by the belief in ego.” ...

13. Then Subhuti asked the Buddha, “Lord, what shall we call this sermon?”

The Buddha answered, “Call it ‘The Diamond Sutta on the Perfection of Wisdom.’ Like a diamond blade, it can cut through all delusion!” ...

14. Then Subhuti suddenly had a full awareness of the meaning of the sermon, and was moved to tears. “Lord, thank you for this sermon. Anyone who hears it and understands it with a pure mind will be moved by it. Even hundreds of years into the future, its clarity will be appreciated." ....

32. “Subhuti, if someone gave away enough treasure to fill a universe, he would still not gain as much merit as someone who manages to understand and pass on a few lines of this sermon.

“So what should be on one’s mind as one begins the Bodhisattva journey?

"Like a falling star, like a bubble in a stream,
Like a flame in the wind, like frost in the sun,
Like a flash of lightning or a passing dream --
So should you understand the world of the ego.”

Subhuti and the rest of the monks were filled with joy at hearing the Buddha’s sermon.

 

Hyder Ginwalla


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