Do all married woman get orgasm with their husband?
sonia
8/1/2001 4:27:00 AM
Recently, I am seeing lot of grievences by married woman regarding their sex life. How good indian married woman have sex?
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rav666 8/1/2001 4:27:00 AM ( 1 of 45 )
We need to discuss more such issues here. One of my friends is doing extensive research on pre-orgasmic behaviours of toads and reptiles in tropical rain forests. Maybe the findings of his study will shed light on questions like these that have intrigued the humanity for centuries.
ssss 8/1/2001 4:27:00 AM ( 2 of 45 )
It is more on length of act and emotional comaptibilty rather anything else(experiences of marriage).Indian men are notso lousy,for most have a lot of experience.Or maybe interview ones who had orgasms and teach others to teach there men that.Good business proposition.Or may be Indian women are more demanding now.Or maybe Indian men submissive with real wives,but not with others.This is one problem Indian born Americans youth?? will never have.Help from USA on that.
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ssss 8/1/2001 4:27:00 AM ( 3 of 45 )
Inspite of orgasms marriages can break.Without orgasm marriages succeed.Compatilbilty of soul/values/profile important than orgasms.Sex needs will match if similiar needs in sex.But if more sex at early age,then demands increase more.Maybe then orgasm everyday will be needed,when one starts having orgasms.After orgasm then what,drugs??So too much sex not good.Middle path.Discover real nature,then sex slowly.Problems of Indian born americans.In same country,our elders never talked/complained of all this.Is it that elderly Indian females never were satisfied.They had arranged marriages,like a gamble and most succeeded or carried on.Orgasms is modern day problems or olden days also. another survey.A ethical girl has a orgasm everyday,but marries a unethical guy (with mutiple rleations) will that succeed?A unethical girl gives sex 2 times a day to ethical guy for a hour,but has mutiple relations with guys will it succeed?Try and see for yourself.Sex needs different of different people and some male female hyper sexed whom some call sexmaniacs/nymhomanaics and they do exist.
kamal 8/1/2001 4:27:00 AM ( 4 of 45 )
hello ssss,
I agree with your following statement "maybe Indian men submissive with real wives,but not with others".
This shows majority of indian men(but not all) have wrong attitude with respect to sex though they may have good attitude in other areas.
what makes them to have such kind of attitude? Is it proud/pride for them? Fortunately, I am not one among them.
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ssss 8/1/2001 4:27:00 AM ( 5 of 45 )
Hypocrisy in morality,insecurity that female might become dominant and have other affairs,tendency to mistreat and subjugate them.Hear male gossip/comments to know reality.
Prem 8/1/2001 4:27:00 AM ( 6 of 45 )
Prem Naam Hai Mera, Not Chopra.
I am rather intrigued by the phrase:
"How good indian married woman have sex?"
You mean it is different for "bad" and/or "ummarried" women?
Of course we need to get into what is "good" too.
Short answer is N-O
Anyone remember the restaurant scene in When Harry Met Sally?
BTW, do women fake orgasms much in real life as agaisnt western movies and books?
Has anyone seen any Indian movie where they joke/are serious about a woman faking it?
ksramesh 8/1/2001 4:27:00 AM ( 7 of 45 )
Males are not patient
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Tathagat 8/1/2001 4:27:00 AM ( 8 of 45 )
appa DeepO bhava
...tathagat has spoken on the subject here earlier... there is total n utter lgnorance about female sexuality, as about everything else... buffaloes butchering the Urdu(hind'vi) words on Indian telly... tathagat playing pied piper LINKALIST [previous term 4 weblogger/blogger] here... come follow me babes...
how wrong was Siddartha when he asked Anand not to even look at women... if the gaze is unavoidable... do not talk to them... if they start to speak... be alert... :), also didn't want to initiate women... tathagat prefers women though... any taker?!!!
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kamal 8/1/2001 4:27:00 AM ( 9 of 45 )
Tathagat has provided informational links. Thanks Tathagat. Now I can understand that there are 2 kinds of women. One is normal, who gets orgasm with normal husband. Another one is frigid women, who does not get orgasm with normal husband, so, for that kind of women not getting orgasm, husband should not be blamed. Frigid women should consult doctors to become normal women and enjoy sexual life like normal women, so that their husband also can get happies.
kajalj 8/1/2001 4:27:00 AM ( 10 of 45 )
Well Kamal, I think Indian chavinistic males like you are the problem. How conceited a reply did you put up and if I am not wrong a lot of males (with the bloated egos) think the same. Oh right... just blame it on the woman. If she is not coming to your expectations... sure she must be frigid... because you surely are normal - right... hahahahhaha
kamal 8/1/2001 4:27:00 AM ( 11 of 45 )
Hello kajalj,
I think that something has happend to your brain. I just summerised what I read from tathaghat's link and I compared between normal male and diff. kinds of female. In reply, you could have made comparision between normal female and diff. kinds of male. Instead you just scribbled something and it revealed your mental maturity. So, come up with good/constructive ideas/information/message not this kind of stupid retaliation.
Tathagat 8/1/2001 4:27:00 AM ( 12 of 45 )
appa DeepO bhava
nope... u didn't get it... read all the stuff mate... n u will know... there ain't no-thing called frigidity... its ones ignorance of devices provided by the nature... she got erogenous zones all over her body... mobile ones on her legs... :), ... clitoris is the 'finger pointing 2 the moon'... u gotta explore dears... ur subjects n ur objects... but men too stupid 2 learn it soon enuff... U babes need to learn to deliver it 2 urselves... (and BTW only six mails so far!!! :)...
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BobbyK 8/1/2001 4:27:00 AM ( 13 of 45 )
u really cannot blame ignorant people like Kamal since it all depends on upbringing. The average middle class male is brought up in circumstances where the women never really get respect, leave alone orgasms. The men come home smelling like shit and ecpect their women to spread wide open and make love to them.
Most of these men are so full of themselves that they try and cover their own shortcomings by brutalizing their wives, mothers and daughters.
Kamal has obviously skipped to the part of the article which he could relate the most with - thus armed with an excuse for his shortcomings he crudely classifies women into 2 parts. Needless though to add, people like Kamal form 90% of the Indian male population - chauvinistic and self centred - idiosyncracies personified by a handful of loudmouth buddies bluffing about their sexcapades with unsuspecting victims of peeping tom neighbourhood boys. Their lack of compassion for the fairer sex results in so many women ending up unhappy.
BobbyK 8/1/2001 4:27:00 AM ( 14 of 45 )
the question is not about lacking orgasms, but lacking of real life. Orgasms are not the be all and end all of life. Satisfaction is.
At times, even after an explosive orgasm you may not feel satisfied but then again at times, without having an orgasm you may be ever so satisfied you'll feel you don't even need anymore.
The key is in respect and good communication. Lack of orgasm is more often than not a result of non communication of likes and dislikes and unfamiliarity between individuals as well as apprehensions, shyness etc that comes from poor upbringing.
The Indian society is changing but the process is very slow. One cannot squarely blame Men or Women by classifying them as frigid or impotent. The fault lies in both for not being able to communicate their likes and dislikes to each other effectively without offending one another.
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kamal 8/1/2001 4:27:00 AM ( 15 of 45 )
I read lot of articles relating to chastity of both males and females. It concludes that males are more immoral than females before marriage. After marriage, the percentage is equal. ie) Equal no. of females have illegal contacts after marriage. If females are more powerful than males physically, there would have been more rape cases than what is today.
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vishag 8/1/2001 4:27:00 AM ( 17 of 45 )
NO. NOT ALWAYS.
The novel ` 7 minutes` by Irving Wallace will give all the answers to this question.
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peace4u 8/1/2001 4:27:00 AM ( 20 of 45 )
What Satya says is quite right. What goes on in bedroom, is a private matter and should not be discussed or revealed in public or to other persons unless there is some necessity, such as health or safety. The Prophet of Islam Muhammad (peace be upon him) said this about people who reveal and discuss openly their sexual practices: "Do you know what those who do this are like? Those who do this are like a male and female devil who meet each other on the road and satisfy their desire while the people look on."
psigrad 8/1/2001 4:27:00 AM ( 21 of 45 )
What a bunch of crock! First, I'm sure not all Indian men are selfish and try to make sure their wives get pleasure. Second, a big dick is NOT necessary to satisfy ANYONE and I speak from experience. So Sanju25, you seem to be in your own screwed up la-la land. Best of luck to you. And those who would rather keep this kind of discussion under wraps, get a life! Sex is not bad or a sin. It is a part of life that GOD has given us. The reason we are here is to be love and be loved, to be happy. If we don't discuss this kind of stuff in an open forum where, by the way privacy can be maintained, why not?! It is more educational than anything. One doesn't need to get personal or take offense at anything said. People are only giving their opinion and some even speak from actual experience. And since when did we need to take on the prudish British values? I thought the Raj came to an end or did it? All our prophets/saints told us to keep up with the times. We are not living in their time to keep hanging on to old ideas that don't work anymore. Yes, there is something called modesty, but in this age of AIDS and rampant sexual diseases, it would do all of us Indians good to speak up and speak out on what matters to us!
sonia 8/1/2001 4:27:00 AM ( 22 of 45 )
psigard,
pat on your back. Good.
Dear satya and peace4u,
In indian society, it is very difficult to get sex education. No body teaches them. They discuss among their friends and they have wrong opinions. Most of the people are learning from cinema film, which can not give clear picture 100%. I ask you folks one question, how many unmarried indian males know that girls will have underarm hairs? How many folks know about clitoris and other pleasure points. How many good marriages ended up with misunderstanding with each other because of lack of sexual knowledge? Good sex keeps the mood of couple happy/healthy and avoids lot of irritating fights and improves the self image. Once self image is improved self confidence improves, once self confidence improves, they way people approach the problems will improve. This discussion is meant to increase the better understanding of the good couples by means of improving their sex knowledge.
I had lots of problem with my husband during my early marriage days because of lack of sexual knowledge from both of us. Then we discussed a lot about this and we learned a lot about good sex. Today we are living very happily.
The secret of happy marriage is, "you can not be happy, if you let you down your partner and vice versa. So bring up your partner by all means and live happily".
I think that kids won't read this discussion because they cannot understand. Since they cannot understand they will not show interest to read these postings. I did not find exclusive discussion area, that is the reason it is here.
rsajan 8/1/2001 4:27:00 AM ( 23 of 45 )
The modern, self-reliant, self-sufficient, self-earning Indian woman does not confine her appetites to her husband alone. For the same reasons that men go to other men's wives, present day women also like eating out, and do not consider it a deal big enough for discussion. When a man has it out with another woman on the sly, his partner is also some other man's wife, lover, sister or mother! Satisfactory sex and such issues come only after a satisfactory means of livelihood. Orgasms and the like are therfore, topics for debate and experimentation only among the well to do.
seshadri 8/1/2001 4:27:00 AM ( 24 of 45 )
I believe less than a quarter of all wives get real sexual satisfaction from their husbands. The rest does not know what a real orgasm is because they have never experienced it, or believe what little they experience is what it is. Pathetic. I think grown up people need more sexual education in India today.
neshmah 8/1/2001 4:27:00 AM ( 25 of 45 )
How come there is so much importance placed on the big "O"? Isn't anyone satisfied with a husband who loves you, anymore? Or is this about that there are so few good men who really know how to treat a woman? Show me a man who is faithful and compassionate to his wife and children---this would be far more lasting and satisfying than a fleeting orgasm. Anyone can go elsewhere to get sexual satisfaction from another partner--but, it takes something much more special for two adults--a man and a woman--to love one another deeply and faithfully and devotedly. If anyone could ever have the latter, would we women really care all that much about whether or not we had to have orgasmic pleasure in between our legs when its really our hearts that need loving, and our value as soulful women/mothers/sisters/daughters that need respect and validation? Do our souls cry out for Love, or physical orgasm? Having ORGASMS becomes irrelevant for those whose souls are esteemed, cared for and loved by another. Having both, of course, would be ideal. But if I had to choose one for the rest of my life, I would definitely want to have "orgasms of the heart" rather than orgasms of erotica.
peace4u 8/1/2001 4:27:00 AM ( 26 of 45 )
S E X It's very natural that sex should be a private matter but at the same time I admit that sex is a natural part of our existance. Also, teens and adolescents will be curious and they will search for answers. If they have nowhere or no one reliable to go to because of embarrassment, they will go to more readily available but unreliable or unethical sources. This might end doing more harm than good. I hope providing this information will benefit everyone - parents and kids alike. But one should know that there are certain boundaries to be observed. The principles of conjugal love in Islam are few and uncomplicated.
1. Sexual relations are for the pleasure of both the husband and the wife and for the procreation of children. Sexual intercourse is not limited to vaginal penetration but includes other forms of sexual caressing, such as kissing and fondling of various kinds.
2. Nothing should be done that is offensive or harmful to either person. Each has a duty to be sexually available to the other, but neither has the right to disgust or injure the other.
3. With a few exceptions, the couple can engage in any activities that they like, in any manner and in any position. Allah rewards such activities as surely as he punishes sinful activities
peace4u 8/1/2001 4:27:00 AM ( 27 of 45 )
The above reply was intended for sonia.
I fully agree with neshmah when she says its love between people that is more important. sex and orgasm are a fraction of the total love that exists between two people.
Prem 8/1/2001 4:27:00 AM ( 28 of 45 )
Prem Naam Hai Mera, Not Chopra.
Fraction of the total love? What a lotta baloney. Wake up and smell the coffee, dearies. Or perfume, if you will.
It is nothing but sex, though all of it can be garbed and cloaked differently.
My point though is that it is as much the women's own responsibility as the men's, as far as bringing the other to orgasm is concerned.
Perhaps it would be facile to get into the differences between vaginal and clitorial orgasms, I think it is time that people, um, took matters in their own hands (or fingers, if you please) and guide the other one how best to stimulate them.
Sexy lingerie, perfumes etc. don't hurt, and a little bit of reading up on even otherwise vacuous magazines like Cosmo etc. would help matters too.
So here's to the big O, ladies. Enjoy yourselves.
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pheonix 8/1/2001 4:27:00 AM ( 29 of 45 )
Hats off to Neshmah for bringing sanity into the discussion.
rsazania 8/1/2001 4:27:00 AM ( 30 of 45 )
friends i am very late entrant into this discussion so do forgive me for any thoughts already expressed . let me begin by saying that i am a male. i agree with may of the opinions that i read especillay neshmah that it is pove that is more important.. from a sexual perspective i can vouch for the fact that since i am so much in deep love with my partner it is a very exhiliarating experince to hace sex with my wife. exhiliarating because of the completeness which i feel when i am with her nad the joy that our daughter gives us. itis that existence which allows me to have great sex with my wife . my body responds when i see her but it does not respond in the same way when i see other females . some of them are much more beautiful and sorry to use thye term ( sexy ) than my wife. it is only your love for your wife that makes you enjoy sex in its entirety and nothing else...
sonia 8/1/2001 4:27:00 AM ( 31 of 45 )
I encourage readers to come out with discussion on individual problems rather encomposing a generalised one. like 'Hindu vs Muslim' or 'Corruption will it ever end'.
It is easier to change oneself rather than changing group of people or society.
Hope this discussion has been useful to the readers to improve husband and wife relation and to have better society. More and more points are welcome.
suman 8/1/2001 4:27:00 AM ( 32 of 45 )
yes, i am a newly married woman and my husmand makes it sure everytime that i get an orgasm as well.
maky 8/1/2001 4:27:00 AM ( 33 of 45 )
It is just like asking "Do you enjoy your meal everytime at home?".Certainly not everytime.
sonia 8/1/2001 4:27:00 AM ( 34 of 45 )
maky,
Of course, we may not enjoy meal everytime at home. The purpose of this discussion it to get better and better in husband and wife relationship by sharing/contributing ideas.Nothing is 100% perfect but we can try to reach maximum possible.
sonia 8/1/2001 4:27:00 AM ( 35 of 45 )
maky,
Of course, we may not enjoy meal everytime at home. The purpose of this discussion is to get better and better in husband and wife relationship by sharing/contributing ideas.Nothing is 100% perfect but we can try to reach maximum possible.
maky 8/1/2001 4:27:00 AM ( 36 of 45 )
Sonia, That's what I wanted sum up.Instead of talking about physical orgasm we should discuss about getting intellectual high from a relationship.
maky 8/1/2001 4:27:00 AM ( 37 of 45 )
Sonia, That's what I wanted to sum up.Instead of talking about physical orgasm we should discuss about getting intellectual high from a relationship.
bob147 8/1/2001 4:27:00 AM ( 38 of 45 )
Having an orgasm is not the be all and end all of all sexual liasons - however, it is definitely the most satisfying feeling a person can experience. Infact, a good orgasm can leave you smiling for hours after the deed is done.
Most maried women who do not orgasm during sex are either very bad communicators or stuck with cock sure nin-compoop husbands who basically believe in the motto of 'Wham bam thank you ma'am'
Comparing an orgasm to a meal is the most ridiculous thing I ever heard of. Eating is necessary for survival - but can live without sex or orgasms.
It's more like - watching a great movie with a bad ending.......
snag1138 8/1/2001 4:27:00 AM ( 39 of 45 )
Hi, as an american I am glad to see this discussion going on in your country. The situation is not too different from ours. The U.S. has a legacy of more "puritanical" values than for example many European countries. We don't have completely open discussion or education about sex.
I think the most important thing is to first get rid of the shame and embarrassment about talking about sex. Then you can begin to communicate with your partner and also educate yourself. I think that most men want to give their lover an orgasm, but either the woman doesn't explain her needs or the man just assumes it is as good for her as it is for him. If the man doesn't care about your needs, then you might need to get a better man. If he is just shy about sex than there may be hope you can both learn to communicate better.
If the woman is unsatisfied, she needs to explain this somehow even though it may be hard. To avoid hurting his ego you should compliment him and say you love being with him but then suggest new things you want to try or new ways that he could make you even happier. If talking is hard you should print information out from the internet, or get books or movies that you can study and also get him to look at and learn from.
At the same time men need to take the lead and ask their woman what she wants. They need to understand that it is harder for a women to reach orgasm and make sure that they ask her if what he is doing works or if she wants him to do something else. Some women can never have an orgasm from standard sex and will need to get it orally or manually.
As important as a loving relationship is, having more enjoyable sex will only make your relationship better, stronger, and happier for both of you. It is just one part of your relationship but there is no reason to neglect it. If sex was not an important part of a relationship, then why do we marry people of the opposite sex?
rsajan 8/1/2001 4:27:00 AM ( 40 of 45 )
Sex through electrical impulses introduced into the brains is already there and will be the regular thing before long. Men would not then have to toil trying to induce orgasms in non-co-operative yet demanding women.
The demand that women should be made to orgasm, that men ought to do it to be counted good are all illogical. The good old days when women were mere playthings were better.
bob147 8/1/2001 4:27:00 AM ( 41 of 45 )
rsajan, your message reeks of male chauvinism. Women do not demand to have an orgasm - they deserve it just like you do.
Why do you masturbate??Obviously because the orgasm satisfies you. It works the same way for everyone.
If you don't want to spend much time making your partner happy then you are suitable for a homosexual relationship. Atleast then your relationship will be with a gender you so well understand. It is only logical.
rsajan 8/1/2001 4:27:00 AM ( 42 of 45 )
In homosex, you need not satisfy anyone? Kindly educate.
Women deserve orgasms? Good. But why is their orgasm men's business alone?
At my age, I do not masturbate; thank you.
If producing orgasms for women is this serious a matter, why not legislate to ensure orgasms?
Women who demand orgasms are progressive women, who need not hesitate to progress from their archaic husbands to modern lovers in the divine search for the great orgasm.
Om nama-orgasmaya!! 'O'm, 'O'm!!!
rajat_18 8/1/2001 4:27:00 AM ( 43 of 45 )
i agree with satya whaqt's there think about it!!!!!!!!!!!!!
rajat_18 8/1/2001 4:27:00 AM ( 44 of 45 )
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Prem 8/1/2001 4:27:00 AM ( 45 of 45 )
Prem Naam Hai Mera, Not Chopra.
snag1138 >> "Hi, as an american I am glad to see this discussion going on in your country..."
Well, thank you for patronizing us, the poor, unwashed illiterate Indians, snag138.
Okay, so I am being mean, and you perhaps did not mean to be condescending towards us, but it really appalls me that a culture like ours which harks back to the three K's -- Kamasutra, Konark and Khajuraho (not to mention much more) -- will allow itself to be seduced by the superfluous and vacuous American approach to things like sex (how difficult is it to imagine some American broad whining on Oprah, "He's so insensitive to my feeeliings, he comes and leaves me unfinished" or some such)...
I think once our guys get over their own performance pressure and learn to really, well, hang loose, and forget thir neanderthal notions of being superior etc. to women, we'd all be happily jiving to Beatles' Come Together.
And, just by the way, I am all for women on top.
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